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Old 01-18-2013, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by KCS
You should be okay with the LS1 intake, it's not all THAT bad. I made over 400whp with one and 241 heads on my iron block, and that's all before 5000 RPM where the clutch gives up. Sure, an LS6 is better, but I'd rather save that $300 for the FAST.

This..don't spend more money for a part now that you already have ideas of replacing down the road, IMO
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Originally Posted by arock24
This..don't spend more money for a part now that you already have ideas of replacing down the road, IMO
yeah good point although the fast intake will probably be in the distant future, i always have my truck intake too if it will fit under my hood

i might have to dyno test them and see how much of a difference they make

do you guys think the 243's, MS3 and FAST intake would get me to 425whp? and 11.50's? i was thinking of possibly getting a custom ground cam instead of the ms3 too
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Originally Posted by 1988montecarloss
yeah good point although the fast intake will probably be in the distant future, i always have my truck intake too if it will fit under my hood

i might have to dyno test them and see how much of a difference they make

do you guys think the 243's, MS3 and FAST intake would get me to 425whp? and 11.50's? i was thinking of possibly getting a custom ground cam instead of the ms3 too
Maybe, it's the dished pistons in the LQ4 that is going to hurt.
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Originally Posted by KCS
Maybe, it's the dished pistons in the LQ4 that is going to hurt.
with 243 heads decked .015" and .040" thick headgasket i should be at 11:1 compression....i think haha
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Originally Posted by 1988montecarloss
with 243 heads decked .015" and .040" thick headgasket i should be at 11:1 compression....i think haha
You'll be at about 10.6:1 assuming milling gets you down to 62cc.
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Originally Posted by KCS
You'll be at about 10.6:1 assuming milling gets you down to 62cc.
thats not too bad, think i could get away with milling a little more without running into ptv clearance problems?
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I think you will have no prob going 11.50 with that combo.

This setup has been close to your goals with a junk tune on the car hits rev limiter 2nd to 3rd shift and holds it bad, and very fat.
I think with my tune corrected I will go 11.50 no prob.

Car is 3400LB also

05 LQ4 stock long block
571/573 on a 112LSA
LS9 head gaskets w/ EBAY head studs
LS9 valve springs
All camaro acc. intake manifold, throttle body, front pullies, injectors etc
4l60e w/ vigalante 3600 stall
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Originally Posted by AllMotorLT1
I think you will have no prob going 11.50 with that combo.

This setup has been close to your goals with a junk tune on the car hits rev limiter 2nd to 3rd shift and holds it bad, and very fat.
I think with my tune corrected I will go 11.50 no prob.

Car is 3400LB also

05 LQ4 stock long block
571/573 on a 112LSA
LS9 head gaskets w/ EBAY head studs
LS9 valve springs
All camaro acc. intake manifold, throttle body, front pullies, injectors etc
4l60e w/ vigalante 3600 stall
3.73 gear
nice to hear a believer haha, hopefully i dont get kicked out for not having a roll bar
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I wouldn't see any reason it wouldn't, hold for the LS1 intake. My heavy pig ran an 1/8th mile equivalent of 11.30s in the 1/4 with a similar setup plus a coulple hundred pounds. That intake will hold the car back on the top end though. I wouldn't run an ms3 in a stock cube 6.0, 7.75 degrees of overlap if you go with the 112lsa is going to idle like shyyytt. My 230/238 112 lsa cam only had 5.5 degrees of overlap and 19 more to soak it up and you heard how choppy that was. On top of that an MS3 is going to be pretty hard on valve springs especially beehives, you should really have doubles for that cam. Stick to TSPs 233/239 112-114 lsa or an EPS 226/234 113 lsa.
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I wouldn't see any reason it wouldn't, hold for the LS1 intake. My heavy pig ran an 1/8th mile equivalent of 11.30s in the 1/4 with a similar setup plus a coulple hundred pounds. That intake will hold the car back on the top end though. I wouldn't run an ms3 in a stock cube 6.0, 7.75 degrees of overlap if you go with the 112lsa is going to idle like shyyytt. My 230/238 112 lsa cam only had 5.5 degrees of overlap and 19 more to soak it up and you heard how choppy that was. On top of that an MS3 is going to be pretty hard on valve springs especially beehives, you should really have doubles for that cam. Stick to TSPs 233/239 112-114 lsa or an EPS 226/234 113 lsa.
yeah i got my ls1 intake for sale and im gonna pick up an ls6 one

if i ran a different LSA on the ms3 think i could get away with it? i plan on getting the heads ported and a FAST intake down the road so thats why i was gonna put a kinda-too-big cam in it now haha

what i should be doing is building a big rig for the upcoming season of 18-wheeler racing at winterport hahahaha

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A 114 or 115 will sound about how mine did I would imagine, you can run the MS3 with the 112 it will just be harder to get the idle dialed in. Haha yea get your cement mixer trucks ready!!
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Originally Posted by Troy5061
A 114 or 115 will sound about how mine did I would imagine, you can run the MS3 with the 112 it will just be harder to get the idle dialed in. Haha yea get your cement mixer trucks ready!!
yeah drivabilty isnt a big factor, i just want as low of an ET as i can get, i might even just get a custom ground cam too
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Originally Posted by 87caprice318
230/242 .600/.615 109+3

Yea thats who I was thinking but then again, I'm pretty sure Geoff or my buddy Jason knows someone that can hand port them for about 400 ish
you can hand port yourself with some 60 grit sand paper and finish off with some 1000 to smooth off. for 400 i can port and finish off with hand port. maybe even less.
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Originally Posted by 1988montecarloss
yeah drivabilty isnt a big factor, i just want as low of an ET as i can get, i might even just get a custom ground cam too
with an lq4 and 243s, i would recommend the flowtech ssht (streetsweeper high torque), 228-232, 611-600, 111+3. guarantee youll fly.
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Originally Posted by low2001gmc
with an lq4 and 243s, i would recommend the flowtech ssht (streetsweeper high torque), 228-232, 611-600, 111+3. guarantee youll fly.
could i run these springs with this cam?

http://www.flowtechinduction.com/lun...g-kit-73925k1/

and how much could i deck the 243's? obviously ill check PTV clearance before running it but i wanna try to get as close to 11:1 as i can
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Originally Posted by Troy5061
A 114 or 115 will sound about how mine did I would imagine, you can run the MS3 with the 112 it will just be harder to get the idle dialed in. Haha yea get your cement mixer trucks ready!!
hey troy i think im gonna go with the TSP 233/239, what LSA do you think i should run?
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bought some 243's yesterday, they should be here friday, i think i might go with a .054" compressed thickness mls gasket and get the heads shaved .025-.030"

can anybody tell me what compression ratio it would end up being for .025 and .030

the bottom end is stock lq4 and the heads will have stock size combustion chambers



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