Budget head choices
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From: KCMO
Budget head choices Bolt on car in sig. Planning on for sure a cam kit with tax money. Going to be something in the low to mid 230's with a lsa on the tighter side 110 or 111. But I'm debating adding heads also. If I do they will be a budget head for sure. Just wanted some feedback on what I'm thinking. Car is a weekend only, 2k mi a year car. My local track closed so not much track time will be seen.
- Ai HCR 219's
- PRC st 1 LS6's
- PRC st 2.5 5.3's
Obviously I would like some AFR 210's, TF 215's or PRC 227's but not in the wife allotted mod budget, lol. So pro's and cons of my selections? Or firsthand experience with them? B to B dyno or track times would be awesome but I doubt people switch from one budget head to another very often.
Thanks Wes
- Ai HCR 219's
- PRC st 1 LS6's
- PRC st 2.5 5.3's
Obviously I would like some AFR 210's, TF 215's or PRC 227's but not in the wife allotted mod budget, lol. So pro's and cons of my selections? Or firsthand experience with them? B to B dyno or track times would be awesome but I doubt people switch from one budget head to another very often.
Thanks Wes
I got my AFR 205 heads off the classified section for a good price. If you want the "higher end" heads, then look on here for them. Otherwise, hit up the PRC heads from Texas Speed.
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From: BFE
Bolt on car in sig. Planning on for sure a cam kit with tax money. Going to be something in the low to mid 230's with a lsa on the tighter side 110 or 111. But I'm debating adding heads also. If I do they will be a budget head for sure. Just wanted some feedback on what I'm thinking. Car is a weekend only, 2k mi a year car. My local track closed so not much track time will be seen.
- Ai HCR 219's
- PRC st 1 LS6's
- PRC st 2.5 5.3's
Obviously I would like some AFR 210's, TF 215's or PRC 227's but not in the wife allotted mod budget, lol. So pro's and cons of my selections? Or firsthand experience with them? B to B dyno or track times would be awesome but I doubt people switch from one budget head to another very often.
Thanks Wes
- Ai HCR 219's
- PRC st 1 LS6's
- PRC st 2.5 5.3's
Obviously I would like some AFR 210's, TF 215's or PRC 227's but not in the wife allotted mod budget, lol. So pro's and cons of my selections? Or firsthand experience with them? B to B dyno or track times would be awesome but I doubt people switch from one budget head to another very often.
Thanks Wes
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I am totally sold on Ai. Have read many results from satisfied people. But when in a budget standpoint I'm really eager to get the most for my dollar. I mean there are like 5 well known heads in the 1k-1.3k range. The question is how much of a difference between them.
And predator, I may end up hitting you up for a cam recommendation. I've been from the 228r as the smallest to the Polluter as the biggest on my decision making process. If you want to give advice ill give more info.
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I think you'd really like my "SNS" Stage 2 cam. It's 231/235 .617"/.621" 111+2 and makes for a nasty little stick when paired with a good set of heads like the AI 219's or even the 226's.
Can't go wrong with TEA either as they do great port work also. The only thing I don't like about the TEA heads is that they use a 2.04" intake valve on their stage 2 heads which eats up P to V clearance. For guys that are willing to fly-cut it's a non issue, but for guys that can't fly-cut or don't want to...it is. Now their stage one heads use a factory intake and exhaust valve with the same port work that the Stage 2's have. Also a good option is Livernois, but they are a little more pricey than AI or TEA.
Can't go wrong with TEA either as they do great port work also. The only thing I don't like about the TEA heads is that they use a 2.04" intake valve on their stage 2 heads which eats up P to V clearance. For guys that are willing to fly-cut it's a non issue, but for guys that can't fly-cut or don't want to...it is. Now their stage one heads use a factory intake and exhaust valve with the same port work that the Stage 2's have. Also a good option is Livernois, but they are a little more pricey than AI or TEA.
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Verdad Gallardo The great thing about Livernois is they provide you with brand new 243/799 heads and the port job for right at $1,700. A lot of times, it ends up being more having to buy the heads, send them to AI, have the port them, add all the "goodies" and then send them back. If you already have the heads, then yeah, AI comes out cheaper, but I know a lot of guys only have the 241 castings and want to upgrade to 243/799 heads. Either way, you can't go wrong with AI, Livernois or TEA.
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From: BFE
You will be REALLY surprised how things add up when you start down the H/C road - mainly the cam if you replace motor mounts, WP, OP, lifters, etc but with the mileage on most of our cars, they're pretty much necessities. If I had to do it over again, I would probably just do a cam and then save up for the heads.
Although the only bad part of doing cam only is you have to swap springs on the car or take the heads off anyway
Although the only bad part of doing cam only is you have to swap springs on the car or take the heads off anyway
Personally I like the PRC Stage 1 LS6 heads for the money. The as cast PRC aftermarket casting heads are another great option if your wanting aftermarket castings on a budget! We will mill the heads for you to get compression & P/V where it needs to be for no extra charge. 
We currently have over 150 sets of heads in stock so odds are we will have a head to meet your needs in stock & ready to ship
http://www.texas-speed.com/p-3515-pr...ral-heads.aspx
http://www.texas-speed.com/p-1391-pr...ted-heads.aspx
We currently have over 150 sets of heads in stock so odds are we will have a head to meet your needs in stock & ready to ship
http://www.texas-speed.com/p-3515-pr...ral-heads.aspx
http://www.texas-speed.com/p-1391-pr...ted-heads.aspx
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Jason
Co-Owner, Texas Speed & Performance, Ltd.
2005 Twin Turbo C6
404cid Stroker, 67mm Twins
994rwhp/902lb ft @ 22 psi (mustang dyno) www.Texas-Speed.com
