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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 10:47 PM
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Go to advanced search, go over to find post by user, Tony Mamo @ AFR, search in titles only for "383". Im sure you will find it, and some other info you should probably read.
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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 10:49 PM
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 01:19 AM
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Tainted. What kinda numbers are u putting down on ur build? And how much did everything run u? Inbox me if ud like. I wamt to build a ls3 amd maybe sell my 383
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 01:23 AM
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I'd give you 500 max with a 383
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 03:25 AM
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It is doable on a solid roller setup.
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ws6guy27
Tainted. What kinda numbers are u putting down on ur build? And how much did everything run u? Inbox me if ud like. I wamt to build a ls3 amd maybe sell my 383
I sent you a PM. There are allot of details that factor in the price of the project. 550rwhp is stout, and hard to do as stated, but possible.

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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ws6guy27
Would texas speed work with me.. if I took them the car and told them what I had n wanted around 500 rwhp what woukd that run plus a tune
talk to Arron he can set you up good friend of mine and will go over every little thing to get you what you want.

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I looked him up on google.. is there a link u can send?
the link is in my 2nd post on the first page for tonys 383 setup..
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 01:58 PM
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The cost of this "Tony Mamo" build interest me. Is it cheaper to go with a Mamo 383 or a MAST 4XXci 650hp engine?
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by redtan
I would venture to say it's going to take some 7-10k to reach your power goals.

Stroker bottom end 2k
Killer heads 3k
valvetrain/cam 1k (not going to do it with your cam)
intake and fuel 2k

You're going to need to beef up your drivetrain to handle the power and rpms, so 10k is most definitely what you will need to spend.
there are so many small costs that you're not including here, total cost would be closer to $20k from start to finish.
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by RezinTexas
there are so many small costs that you're not including here, total cost would be closer to $20k from start to finish.
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Just for me to do LTH/ORY/Catback, 243 Heads, 224R Cam and all of the proper stuff to go along with it? 3200.

Two things that hit me unexpectedly were new engine mounts and ls6 valley cover. OP, save your money, research while you save your money, then start buying parts. This is a system you're talking about. Everything must work together as a system. View other posts on here and figure out what works and what doesn't. Just because you see some good flowing heads at x-rating, doesn't mean that they actually put that out. So on and so forth. It's a science to get the most horsepower out of your engine when putting new parts in it.
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ws6guy27
Tainted. What kinda numbers are u putting down on ur build? And how much did everything run u? Inbox me if ud like. I wamt to build a ls3 amd maybe sell my 383
Im hoping from anywhere between 525-550, my shortblock I got a hell of a deal on, less than $400 and assembled it myself, heads ran me $2500, then factor in your other costs.

Mine could put down a lot more power, pat G said I could gain 10rwhp just by using a more aggresive lobe. However my cam is specd to be easy on the valvetrain 40-50k between springs) and driven every day, rain sleet, and snow so it had to have good street manners at any given time.

So figure in different more aggresive cam, different lobes, maybe a few tweaks you could be looking at 550-575 -/+
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Originally Posted by garygnu
Tony Mamo did it no problem .you will need a good cam to go with some good flowing heads.
No he didn't, that build was 550 hp at the crank. OP is asking to the wheels.
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by eLiT3SnIpEz
No he didn't, that build was 550 hp at the crank. OP is asking to the wheels.
wrong, Tony hit 611 at the crank on his 383 build which equates to prob. just over 550 RWHP, read....

https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...-included.html
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by papermushrooms
wrong, Tony hit 611 at the crank on his 383 build which equates to prob. just over 550 RWHP, read....

https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...-included.html
Wow. Only lost 60hp through the drivetrain?

Obviously Mamo's 550 wheel Hp is the exception and not the norm or else alot of 383 guys would have close to the same #s with AFR heads.

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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by badazz81z28
Wow. Only lost 60hp through the drivetrain?

Obviously Mamo's 550 wheel Hp is the exception and not the norm or else alot of 383 guys would have close to the same #s with AFR heads.
was more of a guess at parasitic loss through the drivetrain have no idea what it would be on a C5 vette but would end up somewhere around the 550 mark i'd imagine?
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by papermushrooms
wrong, Tony hit 611 at the crank on his 383 build which equates to prob. just over 550 RWHP, read....

https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...-included.html
Wrong.

You're telling me there's only a 10% drivetrain loss? Okay.

Protip: I'd do a little more than just "guessing" before you call someone out on being wrong when your assumption has no factual data to back it up and is wrong itself.
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Originally Posted by eLiT3SnIpEz
Wrong.

You're telling me there's only a 10% drivetrain loss? Okay.

Protip: I'd do a little more than just "guessing" before you call someone out on being wrong when your assumption has no factual data to back it up and is wrong itself.
I agree, Like mentioned a few times; I feel max effort 383 will be in 500hp park. So at the very minimum 15% power train loss with equates to about 520 ish at the wheels. A little more realistic IMHO. Most solid builds would be about 500-515rwhp.

Did Tony mention if his dyno runs were NET or GROSS? I doubt he was running these with full accessories on the front.
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Originally Posted by eLiT3SnIpEz
Wrong.

You're telling me there's only a 10% drivetrain loss? Okay.

Protip: I'd do a little more than just "guessing" before you call someone out on being wrong when your assumption has no factual data to back it up and is wrong itself.
you stated that build was 550 at the crank which is wrong, clearly
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by papermushrooms
you stated that build was 550 at the crank which is wrong, clearly
Because I only bothered looking at Test 1, sue me. I already knew it likely wasn't the case, and if it happened to be I knew it would have been "no problem" like the guy had said. You stated that 611 at the crank should make about 550 to the wheels, which is wrong, clearly.

A friend with a forged 402, TSP's "Giant" cam, Kooks 1-7/8 headers, FAST90 ported by Tony Mamo, Patriot heads, T56 and a Moser 9" made 531 to the wheels, corrected for his high Colorado altitude. I'd be very surprised to see a 383 go much farther than that if at all
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 03:27 AM
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Im looking for ls3 block as well to start a back up motor.. does anyone know where can find one
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