Mild/aggressive cam help
03-12-2013, 08:02 PM
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Yeah dude. "I don't need a cam that makes power around 2500 when I have a 4000 stall" or something along those lines. The T-Rex comes on hard at 4000, seems like a good build to me. With a 100 shot you would be deep 10s.
But what do I know, I am not a 14 second class winner.
But what do I know, I am not a 14 second class winner.
03-12-2013, 08:25 PM
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The MS series, T-Rex, and Tsunami cams are played out. There are far better cam choices out there now and cams that clown all over these listed.
03-12-2013, 10:32 PM
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EPS cams cost more because they use proprietary lobes that you can't get anywhere else. Same goes for Ed Curtis cams. They are about the same price. And they **** all over the standard Comp stuff. The added bonus of the EPS cams is Geoff will throw it on a cam doctor so you can see how far off Comp ground the cam. And it will be a good bit off.
03-13-2013, 07:51 AM
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The newer cams clown all over the MS, T-rex, etc...? they do it on a dyno or on the track? hard to outrun some of those cams i have found. just my .02
if you have a 4k converter then get a cam that just gets going a little before 4k, why have a cam that kicks in at 2500 when your not even using it?
if you have a 4k converter then get a cam that just gets going a little before 4k, why have a cam that kicks in at 2500 when your not even using it?
03-13-2013, 10:53 AM
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I assume they get a bad rap due to the situation. Actually, Geoff used to own Thunder Racing. A situation happened now he no longer owns it, he runs Engine Power Systems instead. I have heard of alot of good stories from Thunder racing as well. I am not going to bad mouth any company on hear say, if they have a good product that I want, I will buy it.
03-13-2013, 04:46 PM
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They got a bad rep due to delivering poor service to quite a few forum members. There are too many companies out there selling parts for these engines who will go out of their way to deliver good service for anyone to put up with crap or risk not getting parts in a timely manner.
03-13-2013, 06:50 PM
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I had to wait a few months but it was well worth the wait.
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03-14-2013, 09:44 AM
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This was in October. I would expect ordering anything between Jan-April to take longer due to high order demand as people gear up for racing season and spending tax return money. I just ordered some gauges from Dakota Digital and it took nearly a month to get them.
03-14-2013, 05:10 PM
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Check out Martins cams @ tick performance. Street heat and sns torquemax cams for ls1s. I have just about the exact mods you have and went with his sns stage 3. Specs in Sig. With a 4000 stall your gonna be reving on the higher side no matter what. 3000+ to really start hauling. So don't get a cam with to much power under the curve... you essentially won't be able to benefit from it. Match that converter wisely. I was little lost on this, I had to call Martin.
With a 4000rpm stall converter, there is no point in having a smaller cam that will make more power in the 2000-4000rpm range. Why is that you ask? Because when you floor the car, the rpm will jump straight to 4000rpm going right past all those gains your smaller cam would of gotten you.
That said, I would strongly suggest our LS2 Stage 2 or Stage 3 TorqueMAX camshaft. Stage 2 is 231/235 .617"/.621" 111+2 and Stage 3 is 235/239 .621"/.624" 112+2. The entire TorqueMAX line has been making some huge gains lately with impressive power curves to boot.
I had a customer make a hair over 400rwhp with a A4 and the Stage 2 TorqueMAX cam I mentioned above cam-only with a FTI 3800 stall. He loves it.
03-15-2013, 09:16 AM
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I ordered it and had it there in about a week. He takes orders and then sends them to Comp to be ground (on his lobes) and I guess I caught him on the day he was placing his order. He said it would take them a couple days to process and then drop ship direct to me which took another 3 days (ups ground or fedex can't remember)
This was in October. I would expect ordering anything between Jan-April to take longer due to high order demand as people gear up for racing season and spending tax return money. I just ordered some gauges from Dakota Digital and it took nearly a month to get them.
This was in October. I would expect ordering anything between Jan-April to take longer due to high order demand as people gear up for racing season and spending tax return money. I just ordered some gauges from Dakota Digital and it took nearly a month to get them.
03-18-2013, 12:16 PM
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Exactly.
With a 4000rpm stall converter, there is no point in having a smaller cam that will make more power in the 2000-4000rpm range. Why is that you ask? Because when you floor the car, the rpm will jump straight to 4000rpm going right past all those gains your smaller cam would of gotten you.
That said, I would strongly suggest our LS2 Stage 2 or Stage 3 TorqueMAX camshaft. Stage 2 is 231/235 .617"/.621" 111+2 and Stage 3 is 235/239 .621"/.624" 112+2. The entire TorqueMAX line has been making some huge gains lately with impressive power curves to boot.
I had a customer make a hair over 400rwhp with a A4 and the Stage 2 TorqueMAX cam I mentioned above cam-only with a FTI 3800 stall. He loves it.
With a 4000rpm stall converter, there is no point in having a smaller cam that will make more power in the 2000-4000rpm range. Why is that you ask? Because when you floor the car, the rpm will jump straight to 4000rpm going right past all those gains your smaller cam would of gotten you.
That said, I would strongly suggest our LS2 Stage 2 or Stage 3 TorqueMAX camshaft. Stage 2 is 231/235 .617"/.621" 111+2 and Stage 3 is 235/239 .621"/.624" 112+2. The entire TorqueMAX line has been making some huge gains lately with impressive power curves to boot.
I had a customer make a hair over 400rwhp with a A4 and the Stage 2 TorqueMAX cam I mentioned above cam-only with a FTI 3800 stall. He loves it.
The customer you spoke of that makes a hair over 400hp, do you know if this cam makes excessive valve train noise on his car? Does he have a dyno graph or track times?
How is the tq for this cam? Right now I am at 320/321 hp/tq with a half assed street tune. I'm okay with making 370-380 on the same dyno, 400 would be great, but I want to gain some nice tq with a good curve as well.
How is the driveablilty with the cam? Any stalling issues coming to a stop? Pulling away from a stop is fine?
What would be the approx shift point for the cam?
What injectors do use suggest for this cam?
Does the cam have enought power to break a 10 bolt? Just kidding, I already cut mid 1.6's so I know I'm on borrowed time.
Thanks.
03-18-2013, 05:52 PM
#36
Thanks for the replys guys. I looked at the TorqueMax stage 2 cam and like the specs, but couldn't pull enough info for the cam off the internet to reseach.
The customer you spoke of that makes a hair over 400hp, do you know if this cam makes excessive valve train noise on his car? Does he have a dyno graph or track times?
How is the tq for this cam? Right now I am at 320/321 hp/tq with a half assed street tune. I'm okay with making 370-380 on the same dyno, 400 would be great, but I want to gain some nice tq with a good curve as well.
How is the driveablilty with the cam? Any stalling issues coming to a stop? Pulling away from a stop is fine?
What would be the approx shift point for the cam?
What injectors do use suggest for this cam?
Does the cam have enought power to break a 10 bolt? Just kidding, I already cut mid 1.6's so I know I'm on borrowed time.
Thanks.
The customer you spoke of that makes a hair over 400hp, do you know if this cam makes excessive valve train noise on his car? Does he have a dyno graph or track times?
How is the tq for this cam? Right now I am at 320/321 hp/tq with a half assed street tune. I'm okay with making 370-380 on the same dyno, 400 would be great, but I want to gain some nice tq with a good curve as well.
How is the driveablilty with the cam? Any stalling issues coming to a stop? Pulling away from a stop is fine?
What would be the approx shift point for the cam?
What injectors do use suggest for this cam?
Does the cam have enought power to break a 10 bolt? Just kidding, I already cut mid 1.6's so I know I'm on borrowed time.
Thanks.
The torque curve and figures for all the SNS TorqueMAX cams will be higher than others of similar duration due to their design. That was the whole idea behind the Saturday Night Special(SNS) line-up was to make peak power like larger cams, not have to rev them to as high of a RPM as those larger cams, make more under the curve power and torque than those larger cams and sound like a larger cam all at the same time. The dyno he was on at the time didn't have a functional tach pick-up so no torque figures were recorded.
With the amount of overlap this cam has, with a tuner that will actually spend some time on your tune and not just stick it on the dyno for 3-4 hours and call it done, you will not have any of the issues you're worried about when driving the car. If the car dies coming to a stop or when pulling away from a stop that is purely a tune related issue.
I would shift this cam around 6500-6600rpm and I'd use 36-42# injectors as well.
To answer your 10 bolt question....will I be held liable for damages? LOL...JK!
