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Old Mar 20, 2013 | 06:40 PM
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I've read elsewhere that it is almost $400 for the CHE conversion, but I'm not totally sure on that.
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Old Mar 20, 2013 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by dr_whigham
I've got roughly 5k miles on mine now, and that's with a .631 lift cam, LS7 lifters and .047 preload.

I'm a bit nervous now... Hell, Comp didn't even put the BOLTS in the box for my dual spring compressor. Makes me wonder what the hell happened to their QA/QC.

Maybe there's a reason Ed has switched to Lunati for his cams for the most part.
Geoff@EPS switched to Cam Motion too...
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Old Mar 20, 2013 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Grimes
I've read elsewhere that it is almost $400 for the CHE conversion, but I'm not totally sure on that.
its $420 to rebuild a set if your cores are good... that straight through CHE in california...

Ill be ordering some soon
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Old Mar 20, 2013 | 11:26 PM
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its $420 to rebuild a set if your cores are good... that straight through CHE in california...

Ill be ordering some soon
You have to send your set in? Pretty pricey but if they don't fail then it is worth it.
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Old Mar 20, 2013 | 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Zmg00camaross
You have to send your set in? Pretty pricey but if they don't fail then it is worth it.
Well you can buy them straight out for $620 or so + shipping but thats because they use brand new GM cores at $15 bucks a piece.. So thats over $200+ just for stockers

So send your stockers in and save $200
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 06:09 AM
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I've been debating just replacing my rockers with new oems. Or.doing this upgrade. With no.press and.reading this thread may just end up with 16 new poems instead.
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 07:04 AM
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I have had nothing but great luck with the Comp Trunion Kits
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$620 and you're still not fixing all of the problems....so you prevent the bearings from falling apart, but you're still side loading valves every time you go above .550" lift

If I'm dropping that kind of coin, it's going to be on roller rockers.
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 08:28 AM
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I agree. That's an insane amount to pay for a "bushing." Sorry. It's the truth. 400 bucks for bushings?

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Keep your open spring pressures below 410# and the Yella Terras should work great, or there's always the platinum series. Lunati is now releasing a newly redesigned LS roller rocker as well.
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Originally Posted by ckpitt55
$620 and you're still not fixing all of the problems....so you prevent the bearings from falling apart, but you're still side loading valves every time you go above .550" lift

If I'm dropping that kind of coin, it's going to be on roller rockers.
Thats the problem. Who makes a good set of roller rockers for these motors? I have seen almost every brand out there posted on this forum broke, at some point or another. I bought a brand new set of Harland Sharp rockers and sent them right back after talking to Brian Tooley about it. He said the stockers are fine up to about .630 lift. I guess a lot of it also depends on the what guides are in your heads. The stock powdered metal guides are very durable. The lift specs on my cam are .621 and .595.

The stockers are also very light compared to most roller rockers out there.

If Comp made some Ultra Pro Mags in 1.7 ratio like they do for the SBC's thats what I would go with, but they do not make them.

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With bronze guides they become more necessary. The stockers work but they're still not ideal for high lifts, powdered guides or not. They may not fail, but that extra friction is costing you power. May not matter as much for some but when you're at the point that you're considering roller rockers, chances are you care about that.

The Yella Terra ultralite 1.7's, Rev 3. The most recent failure threads I've been able to find are almost 2 years old. I'll have to dig to find the thread where they talk about what was causing the problems, as well as what changes were made. A tooling error during the machining process of a batch of them led to improperly machined pushrod cups, which was causing the failures.

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I wonder if installing the Comp Trunions in old rockers is also causing a problem?
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 10:12 AM
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Unless you deform the bores on the old rockers or they creep over time, I don't see how installing them in old arms could make a difference. It is, afterall, what they're designed for. If the bores are deformed, the problem would likely show up before you upgraded them, and I wouldn't expect creep to have any significant effect because its a dynamic load with a low operating temperature (relatively speaking).

I would think improper installation or some manufacturing defect to be much more likely scenarios, with the former of the two taking the cake considering how many people do the installs themselves.

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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by dr_whigham
I agree. That's an insane amount to pay for a "bushing." Sorry. It's the truth. 400 bucks for bushings?

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Keep your open spring pressures below 410# and the Yella Terras should work great, or there's always the platinum series. Lunati is now releasing a newly redesigned LS roller rocker as well.
I agree. You're paying a ton of money to go backwards. The bearings even in the stock ones will give less friction. Why go back to a bushing?? If the comp upgrade isn't enough for your setup, go to a high quality roller instead of p*ssing away almost as much on bushings....
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 05:02 PM
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No one makes a roller to fit my heads, and custom offset shafts cost $2k + the maintenance on them. How is that an insane cost for a bushing set? Have you had a set of lifter bores bushed lately? (same material folks...) lol...
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No, no I haven't. Then again my cars not *race car*

It's daily driven.

You're still rocking the small bore PRC LS7's? I see you're swapping manifolds...
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Originally Posted by DietCoke
No one makes a roller to fit my heads, and custom offset shafts cost $2k + the maintenance on them. How is that an insane cost for a bushing set? Have you had a set of lifter bores bushed lately? (same material folks...) lol...
The lifter bores are pressurized with oil. Valve guides are not...big difference.
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From my research no one has ever reported a failure with the CHE bushed rockers. Richard at WCCH has never had one either. Can't really argue with that. I'll give up a few hp for bulletproof rockers.
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Originally Posted by DietCoke
No one makes a roller to fit my heads, and custom offset shafts cost $2k + the maintenance on them. How is that an insane cost for a bushing set? Have you had a set of lifter bores bushed lately? (same material folks...) lol...
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The lifter bores are pressurized with oil. Valve guides are not...big difference.
+1 Completely different application. lol
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He was talking about the cost of the bushing material and upgrade not how they are lubricated...
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