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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 02:07 PM
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2001 ls1, fairly stock, 115k miles

About to do an oil change, what are your guys opinions on the best oil to use? I've heard regular rotella 15w40 works good? What do you guys think?
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I just stick with Mobile 1
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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 04:09 PM
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Pennzoil Platinum here
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Seriously? LS7 guides failing because the Oil? BS...

Stock engine? Street car? Any off the shelf oil will be fine. People run into oil issues when they try to go thousands of miles without changing it or try to run a street oil in a high performance race engine.

If I were you, I would put any known brand in it. I wouldn't even go synthetic unless that's what you have been running. Def DO NOT go thicker...Stick with whats recommended....5W-30

People complicate this subject for no supporting reason.
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Originally Posted by badazz81z28
Seriously? LS7 guides failing because the Oil? BS...

Stock engine? Street car? Any off the shelf oil will be fine. People run into oil issues when they try to go thousands of miles without changing it or try to run a street oil in a high performance race engine.

If I were you, I would put any known brand in it. I wouldn't even go synthetic unless that's what you have been running. Def DO NOT go thicker...Stick with whats recommended....5W-30

People complicate this subject for no supporting reason.


Thats the way i feel about it. I usually pick one and stick with it. Lots of guy like the valvoline vr1 oil and the german castrol 0w30. They have alot of threads on the subject. Before its over your going to hear of someone who runs the walmart super tech cheap stuff all the way to some real high dollar stuff. Just make sure to change it regular and you should be fine
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Probably want to ignore input from anyone who doesn't point you at Used Oil Analysis to validate their opinion.

Those chanting M1 and "stick with 5w-30 because it is what is recommended" are likely to be particularly ignorant on the subject. Not saying you have to run other than 5w-30 but if someone believes 5w-30 is best because that is what the cap says they are clueless.

Those who say German Castrol and Penzoil Platinum are likely aware of what a Used Oil Analysis is and have looked at them for THIS ENGINE
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That being said i dont even have 5w30 in mine. but im not gonna recommend what i have. I did lots of searching on the subject and decided on what i wanted. Now thats what im useing. Like i said their is tons of threads and info on the subject. It has been beaten to death. I remember at least 2 very long oil and filter post not to long ago.
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German Castrol or Valvoline VR1. And it's not even close.
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
Probably want to ignore input from anyone who doesn't point you at Used Oil Analysis to validate their opinion.

Those chanting M1 and "stick with 5w-30 because it is what is recommended" are likely to be particularly ignorant on the subject. Not saying you have to run other than 5w-30 but if someone believes 5w-30 is best because that is what the cap says they are clueless.

Those who say German Castrol and Penzoil Platinum are likely aware of what a Used Oil Analysis is and have looked at them for THIS ENGINE
Now tell me what oil analysis proves? It can tell you what detergents are in the oil, how much xxx is in it etc, but how does that validate which oil is better or one is worse? You are talking theory when you say one oil is better than the other because it has 50% more of a certain additive in it. It may show that one oil has better protection ability based on an additive, but does that mean the bottom of the list oil will blow your engine up? I don't think so.
Take two brand new LS1 engines, run one with Wal-Mart Super tech and the other with VR1, Mobil 1 or what ever. Put them through the same rigorous street duty and see what happens. That would be a valid test real world test, not guesses based on what the ingredients are. Something tells me though they will both last over 150K+ miles without an oil related issue. Regular oil changes is more important than the oil. Show me a valid test that shows otherwise.
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Here we go again. I think these oil post are set up for failure. Im goin to get some popcorn
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Movie Theater Butter for me...
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Originally Posted by Coppertone
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I know right? Watch this video:

http://royalpurpleconsumer.com/produ...!hps-motor-oil

That will stir the pot....



What would you use? Oil that is shown to perform based on studies of actual application or just looking at the ingredient list?

I know every big name who markets oils will tell you "theirs" is the best...so who can you trust?
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Originally Posted by badazz81z28
Now tell me what oil analysis proves? It can tell you what detergents are in the oil, how much xxx is in it etc, but how does that validate which oil is better or one is worse? You are talking theory when you say one oil is better than the other because it has 50% more of a certain additive in it. It may show that one oil has better protection ability based on an additive, but does that mean the bottom of the list oil will blow your engine up? I don't think so.
Take two brand new LS1 engines, run one with Wal-Mart Super tech and the other with VR1, Mobil 1 or what ever. Put them through the same rigorous street duty and see what happens. That would be a valid test real world test, not guesses based on what the ingredients are. Something tells me though they will both last over 150K+ miles without an oil related issue. Regular oil changes is more important than the oil. Show me a valid test that shows otherwise.

You seem to not know the difference between USED oil analysis and virgin oil analysis.
USED oil analysis will let you see wear metal content in the used oil.
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Anyone use the Joe Gibbs LS specific oil?
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And Bob the Oil Guy forum has analysis of LS engines using various oils. German Castrol is still considered one of the absolute best and now the Valvoline VR1 oil is looking mighty great as well.

Both can be had at AutoZone or Amazon.
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
You seem to not know the difference between USED oil analysis and virgin oil analysis.
USED oil analysis will let you see wear metal content in the used oil.

Oh, I'm very familiar. You are indeed correct, but it is not indicative to the oil protection. You will always see metal content in used oil from the wear of components (That's the way it is). The increase of metal PPM, does not directly relate to how good the oil is (even though I will agree it can contribute). It is used to detect component failure and identify wear items. Even moderate levels of metals in the oil does not indicate failure. Like I said, you need a more scientific test to support the claims. There is none provided.
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