Burken01

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Anyone here used the trickflow timing chain damper adapter with the new style cam retainer plates with the countersunk bolt holes.... ?

Just want to make sure it works fine, if not Ill have to hunt down an older style cam plate..

Burken01

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bump, someone has to haved used it?

vettenuts

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There was a post some time back that one of the stores had the older style plates. Don't remember if it was O'reilly's or which store it was but that might be an option to get a new version of the old plate with the hex head bolts.

Burken01

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yeah that might be an option, the trickflow adapter bolts on after the cam plate and comes with its own button head bolts... I was only asking because since I won't be using those countersunk screws that there will be a cavity when the adapter plate goes over the rivet holes on the cam plate....

does that make sense? its like kinda defeating the purpose of having the "new" style cam plate if your not utilizing those countersunk bolts...

Im probably just being paranoid but I didnt want the adapter plate to "slide" or "shift" while being sandwiched on the cam plate...

tatertot91

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ever get an answer on this?

Burken01

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Yes thanks for bumping..

Trick flow told me the damper plate acts like a big washer covering the cam plate..

WS.SIX

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Wouldn't risk it. I bought a new cam cover (old style) during my install of the timing bracket. Had some clearance issues with one of the bolts that hold the tensioner to the bracket with my melling but nothing not easily resolved.

JakeFusion

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I put the new style cam retainer plate in... I didn't use a damper. I have a double roller chain though... is the damper worth anything on those?

ls1 1990 VN

I have just had the Trickflow damper bracket & LS2 damper fitted to mine along with the Cloyes Hex a just C5R chain.

With a dual chain & no damper the chain can whip a lot, my Rollmaster broke & my Inmotion that was just taken out was pretty slack.

Burken01

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A damper is always good as far as dampening the chain, but it seems as though it will help fill in the gap if there is any kind of slack with the timing chain..

The chain can't really whip since the damper bulges the chain out a hair.

JakeFusion

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Yeah there's no slack on my Rollmaster. And I have the ATI harmonic balancer... Can you install the damper with the chain installed?

Burken01

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I don't see why not, as long as your block is tapped for one, if not you'll need the TFS bracket and then re do the whole cam plate deal...

JakeFusion

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My block isn't tapped for one. It's an LS1. Which is why I never thought to do it. At this point, I'll run it and let the ATI Harmonic Damper keep my chain from snapping. Otherwise, I'd have to re-degree my cam and swap out the retainer plate.

ls1 1990 VN

I've been down this road in the last few years, done it right this time once & for all.
Got the ATI Balancer
Got the Cloyes Hex a just C5R chain & gears
Got the Trickflow Damper bracket
Got the LS2 Damper
Gone back to OEM rockers with upgrade.

Burken01

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Similar to mine

- ATI super damper
- ls2 chain w/TFS damper
- stock rockers/CHE upgrade
- ls7 lifters, although I wanted to go morel link bars but tooley said I would be fine with ls7's, what's cool is he didn't push morels on me.. He straight up said after hearing my combo that ls7's would be fine..

Burken01

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Ha yeah I wouldn't wanna re do all that either, i have to change out my head gaskets to a thicker set because i dont want .031 quench. not looking forward to that..

you have a super damper so I think that's 90% of the battle..

I thought some ls1's had the 2 bolts tapped for a damper, I think some 01-02's.. Ls6 blocks did for sure..

My 03-04 iron block didn't

JakeFusion

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It does have the holes tapped. Just not for the LS2 damper...

But guess what I just ordered from Katech. Murderous... but really only a few bucks more vs the TFS bracket + LS2 damper. Yep. I got the LS6 damper. You twisted my arm, ha!

My plan for the future is an ERL 454 using my block (since it's much cheaper than using the LSX or even LS7), so anything I can find now that will work on that motor, I'm doing. lol

Burken01

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Good job!
Yeah I forgot katech had a hidden stash of those..

Yeah you can reuse a lot of the stuff you have on a future build..

I did a complete budget engine and have some regrets, although I did splurge on a moser 9", jakes 4l80/ PTC converter etc...

But I should be able to do a simple engine swap in the future and not have to change much except for a restall and another tune.. And possibly the turbo..

But it's my first turbo build so I still have a lot to learn..

What I know now vs 2 years ago is night and day

JakeFusion

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Yeah. I'd just be looking at the forged goodies + new sleeves in the 454 (if I can't punch it out that far, 434...) and TFS 245s worked over by Tooley. With a big cam. Everything else would work that I have, which was the idea. I might even entertain Kooks 2" headers. But I'd be in the 600/600 range with that setup. 9 sec NA car full weight...

Burken01

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Yes that would be a killer setup..

I entertained the idea of an ERL block, it's not that it was way outta my price range.. It's that I bought some parts with a 346 ci in mind... And by the time I switched and sold everything off to rebuy, I woulda lost a lot of money..

Infact I regret not going at least a 6 liter vs a 5.3 block since I gained 80lbs with no extra cubes..