okay to remove main/rod bearings then reuse?
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You will do as you want BUT those bearing are being destroyed by something AFTER the oil filter. That means the ENTIRE oil gallery is contaminated with metal. Replacing these bearings is A COMPLETE WASTE unless you solve the problem and completely clean out the gallery and find the source of the metal. Anything else is spinning your wheels.
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Mine don't look quite as nice as those...but all are pretty similar to the lower half in the last pic. One did have a mild groove on one edge, and one main did have a mild groove in the center.
They may not be perfect, but they're not the cause of the problem. The engine lost 25psi of oil pressure all at once after 40 miles of run time after the swap/startup. That won't happen because of mild bearing/journal wear. It pretty much has to be a bad oil pump or a gnarled up bearing somewhere.
Right?
They may not be perfect, but they're not the cause of the problem. The engine lost 25psi of oil pressure all at once after 40 miles of run time after the swap/startup. That won't happen because of mild bearing/journal wear. It pretty much has to be a bad oil pump or a gnarled up bearing somewhere.
Right?
I agree they are not the cause of the problem. But they are getting junk in them from whatever is. Since you just did a cam swap and then the issue, you will probably find a bad cam bearing or cam.
Your gut will tell you, you have experience.
I'm no different by the way, always "hope" it something simple, but the clues will lead you to the issue.
The engine I'm working on came from the boneyard, it's an L33, and who knows whit oil pressure it had. Although it does seem quite nice inside. Haven't decided if I'll re-use the bearings yet.......
Good luck!
Ron
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I went ahead and pulled the motor today after realizing that none of my 3 jaw pullers that I've used on Fbody and truck balancers would fit inside the corvette balancer with the motor inside the car. I might still pick up one of those chrysler balancer pullers just to have for the future.
I want to get that cam out and take a look before I decide what to do.
I want to get that cam out and take a look before I decide what to do.
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There is a point in the rotation of crank, where it can be removed, by first removing the rod caps & mains, then pushing all of the pistons upward, toward the heads. You'll need another pair of hands to hold at least two of the piston rods, just so, to provide enough room for the crank to be removed.
Of course, pulling the engine is required.
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I went ahead and pulled the motor today after realizing that none of my 3 jaw pullers that I've used on Fbody and truck balancers would fit inside the corvette balancer with the motor inside the car. I might still pick up one of those chrysler balancer pullers just to have for the future.
I want to get that cam out and take a look before I decide what to do.
I want to get that cam out and take a look before I decide what to do.
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Well I took the (removed) engine, crank, and bearing caps to a couple of machine shops. Neither of them said anything definitive but what I gathered was that bearings are cheap enough that at that point I should replace them no matter what, and turn the crank. So that is what I did. I also read about possible deformities in the stock rod ends so I had the rod ends turned open 2 thou at the same time, and ordered the appropriate bearings. I went ahead and took the engine completely apart and also replaced the rings and cam bearings "just because" even though the cam and all the original ones looked okay.
Put it all back together and it was pretty much back to normal, although oil pressure is still lower at idle than I would expect (about 20psi with the melling high flow pump and the stiffer of the two springs installed). But pressure at higher rpm is 50psi or so and it doesnt make any excessive noise so I guess it is alright. It probably has a thousand miles or so on it since I put it back together.
Put it all back together and it was pretty much back to normal, although oil pressure is still lower at idle than I would expect (about 20psi with the melling high flow pump and the stiffer of the two springs installed). But pressure at higher rpm is 50psi or so and it doesnt make any excessive noise so I guess it is alright. It probably has a thousand miles or so on it since I put it back together.
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When I responded initially what was it, two years ago? I was undecided on re-using the bearings I showed.
Well, I did. 80 dragstrip passes later, all is well. Oil pressure solid.
Turbocharged by the way. Best of 9.21@149.
Coming apart soon to upgrade to forged rods and Pistons.
Ron
Well, I did. 80 dragstrip passes later, all is well. Oil pressure solid.
Turbocharged by the way. Best of 9.21@149.
Coming apart soon to upgrade to forged rods and Pistons.
Ron
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When I responded initially what was it, two years ago? I was undecided on re-using the bearings I showed.
Well, I did. 80 dragstrip passes later, all is well. Oil pressure solid.
Turbocharged by the way. Best of 9.21@149.
Coming apart soon to upgrade to forged rods and Pistons.
Ron
Well, I did. 80 dragstrip passes later, all is well. Oil pressure solid.
Turbocharged by the way. Best of 9.21@149.
Coming apart soon to upgrade to forged rods and Pistons.
Ron
a) enough people were undecided/doubtful on their condition to raise concern in my mind even though there was not a consensus,
b) there was obviously some issue causing low oil pressure,
c) I was already at that point with removal of the old parts anyway,
and
d) the cost was not that much more to just go ahead and do it, and I could use it as a learning experience of my first piston engine rebuild
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You guys should not mess with things you do not understand. Gosh I'm tired of seeing inexperienced people butchering these motors.
Bearings are seated and should not be removed and reinstalled. And no even if some apprentice did it and thinks it was fine, it is not proper protocol/procedure.
Bearings are seated and should not be removed and reinstalled. And no even if some apprentice did it and thinks it was fine, it is not proper protocol/procedure.
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