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Old 06-02-2013, 06:34 PM
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I'd like to have an eps cam but tps has that kit for 603 bucks; which includes cam, springs, and push rods. Which seems to be the better choice money wise.
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Go with whatever vendor you like. Also check with Martin at tick. Just don't go to large. Get a good tune. If you don't get a good tune. You will hate trying to drive it everyday.
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Yeah I'm really leaning toward the Torquer V.2 right now, I just hope it wont be too big. And for tuning do you think a mail order from PCM4Less would be worth the savings in money or should I just go ahead with a dyno tune? Also, would I be able to drive the car 2 hours to get it tuned? Considering that's the closest dyno around me. I live near Asheville, NC anyone know of some reputable shops near here? Thanks for all the help so far guys! Alvin if you would step in here with some advice on tuning I'd appreciate it.
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I drove my car 1.5 hours to get a tune. It died at all the redlights and bucked goin down the hwy but made it. I'd pass on the mail order tune after something like a can swap its a waist of money IMO. The tune will make all the diffrence in the world. Especially of you wanna enjoy driving the car.
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With a 224/228 being a little more mild, what do people expect for spring life?
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I just installed an EPS 226/230 113 in my 99. Geoff @ EPS tuned it last week. It has excellent street manors and power through out the curve.
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With a 224/228 being a little more mild, what do people expect for spring life?
depending on the spring probably 30k miles or so.
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IMO if you go with TSP then go with a custom grind that uses some of the newer cam lobes which better valve control then the XER or LSK they use on a large percentage of their house grinds. I'd go with a LSL 227 intake lobs and LXL 230 exhaust lobes on a 111lsa with a ICL of 108, it has 6.5* overlap. Great DD powerband, and sound (I run this cam! ).
http://www.texas-speed.com/p-161-com...-camshaft.aspx
Another great option is to go with a Tick cam, they have a very good selection of cams using the latest cam lobes. If you don't see exactly what you want then talk to Martin he can spec you a custom cam if needed.
http://www.tickperformance.com/camshafts/
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Yup go with TSP. Great all around cams.
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Originally Posted by 99Bluz28
IMO if you go with TSP then go with a custom grind that uses some of the newer cam lobes which better valve control then the XER or LSK they use on a large percentage of their house grinds. I'd go with a LSL 227 intake lobs and LXL 230 exhaust lobes on a 111lsa with a ICL of 108, it has 6.5* overlap. Great DD powerband, and sound (I run this cam! ).
http://www.texas-speed.com/p-161-com...-camshaft.aspx
Another great option is to go with a Tick cam, they have a very good selection of cams using the latest cam lobes. If you don't see exactly what you want then talk to Martin he can spec you a custom cam if needed.
http://www.tickperformance.com/camshafts/
I like the specs on that cam...what exactly is advantage of the newer lobes? And what springs are you running would the comp 918'a be sufficient; what kind of hp gains did you see with the cam? Good low end torque?
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Originally Posted by JAGRIFFIN
I just installed an EPS 226/230 113 in my 99. Geoff @ EPS tuned it last week. It has excellent street manors and power through out the curve.
Yes sir. Mines 226-230 112+2. Drives great. Torq curve was awesome. I drive it everyday.
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I like the specs on that cam...what exactly is advantage of the newer lobes? And what springs are you running would the comp 918'a be sufficient; what kind of hp gains did you see with the cam? Good low end torque?
Slightly better power, an valve train life.
For valve springs I'm running PAC1521s dual springs, but when the time come to replace them it'll be with the Brian Tooley Racing (BTR) Platinum Spring Kit. $220 w/tool steel retainers, or $300 w/titanium retainers. Torque is excellent, 350 ft.lb. by 3000rpm, an 300hp by 3800rpm.
I do have H/C/I/Headers, but I'm still at stock compression. As far as gains it's hard to say I never dynoed it until after I installed H/C/an headers.
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Originally Posted by SyntheticPro
^ this sounds about what I'm looking for. I was looking for a good cam for torque. Would you guys suggest changing out the lifters? I really don't want to pull the heads, but if it's the only option I will. Alvin, how much are you guys charging for a Dyno Tune? You guys are about the closest place to me.


We charge $500 for a Heads/Cam dyno tune. We like to have the car for 3 days to ensure driveablity is perfect. You should be able to drive it down here as long as you don't change injectors. It will have a hard time idling but that is it. Let us know if we can help you with the cam selection also.
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Originally Posted by SyntheticPro
Yeah I'm really leaning toward the Torquer V.2 right now, I just hope it wont be too big. And for tuning do you think a mail order from PCM4Less would be worth the savings in money or should I just go ahead with a dyno tune? Also, would I be able to drive the car 2 hours to get it tuned? Considering that's the closest dyno around me. I live near Asheville, NC anyone know of some reputable shops near here? Thanks for all the help so far guys! Alvin if you would step in here with some advice on tuning I'd appreciate it.
Do like alot of us around Asheville do, go to RPM in Garner. Call and talk to Ryan or Martin.

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Frost tuning is located at PAS in Richmond, VA.
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Frost would be my first option of who to take the car too, but seeing he is over 6 hours away that is out of the question. I'm looking to order the cam and all of the parts this week guys. Got a new job this week so not exactly sure when it'll get put it. Talked to TSP today and he suggested the 228R to me, but said the Torquer V2 would do fine. I'm having a horrible time trying to decide on the cam! Lol, there is one thing that has me worried about installing the cam though; that being degreeing it. Wouldn't you just line up the timing marks to install it? Making sure the engine is at TDC?
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Dot to Dot doesn't necessarily guarantee cam is at designed ICL.
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Originally Posted by 99Bluz28
Slightly better power, an valve train life.
For valve springs I'm running PAC1521s dual springs, but when the time come to replace them it'll be with the Brian Tooley Racing (BTR) Platinum Spring Kit. $220 w/tool steel retainers, or $300 w/titanium retainers. Torque is excellent, 350 ft.lb. by 3000rpm, an 300hp by 3800rpm.
I do have H/C/I/Headers, but I'm still at stock compression. As far as gains it's hard to say I never dynoed it until after I installed H/C/an headers.
What kind of MPG were you getting out of that cam?
Predator-z, if I were to get 99Bluz28's recommended cam with a ls2 timing chain/gear set would I be ok to line them up Dot to Dot? I'm trying to make sure I do everything correct the first time so I don't have to do it again. So sorry for all the questions guys I'm still learning.
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Yes, the thing is if there is any variation in the grind you won't correct it. That is what degreeing a cam does.
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Oh ok I see what you're saying now. I'm stuck between either his spec'd cam, or the torquer v2. Just trying to decide which is going to provide more usable power seeing I will hardly ever be over 6000rpms daily driving, and which will be more reliable in the long run and of course there is always the factor of gas mileage. I'm pretty sure the one he spec'd will need double springs correct?


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