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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 03:35 PM
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I was just wanting to get some opinions on the matter...
I've got a Torquer V3 right now(haven't installed it yet) that I got off of a trade from a friend. I've been doing some reading around here and from what I'm seeing I don't really like the numbers this cam makes. I was thinking about maybe switching to a MS3 or custom grind with similar performance. I'm planning on doing heads with the cam so I've had my eye on a tsp H/C package.
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Tick Stage 3 SNS 235/243 111
BTR Stage IV 235/242 111
Ed Curtis (FTI) StreetSweeper 236/240 111
Futral F15 236/239 111
EPS 234/242 112

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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 04:36 PM
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I love my sns stage 3.
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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by justin hover
I love my sns stage 3.
Do you have any dyno numbers on your car?
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The BTR Stage IV made 446rwhp/440rwtq cam only in an LS6 Vette w/LS6 Intake. And 517rwhp/455? with TEA ported 243s touched up by Tooley. The Tick cam is pretty similar.

In an LS1 F-Body with a FAST 102, you could be in the 430-440rwhp range as well on the same dyno.
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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 05:31 PM
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Those are pretty good numbers. I'm shooting for 450 to the tire with H/C/I and then prob throw a 100 shot on it.
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450 you could do with a smaller cam and decent heads. It'd drive better.

Those cams I listed are more for max effort setups that will be 480+ rwhp...
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I wouldn't complain about 480 at all haha. And I'm not to worried about drivability since its not a DD.
What size of a cam would you think could make 450 with those mods
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228/232 112 or so. Something in that neighborhood.
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I'll keep that in mind... Like I said drivability isn't an issue so having a nasty cam would be fine. Just want tobmake sure its reliable.
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The cams I posted use good lobes. You'll be fine with those.
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Before you get too wrapped up in 'making numbers'; is your car ready to accept a max effort cam? What is your differential?
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Originally Posted by JakeFusion™
Tick Stage 3 SNS 235/243 111
BTR Stage IV 235/242 111
Ed Curtis (FTI) StreetSweeper 236/240 111
Futral F15 236/239 111
EPS 234/242 112

Take your pick.
The listed are way better options OP then what you are looking at. Take a real hard look at these.
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
Before you get too wrapped up in 'making numbers'; is your car ready to accept a max effort cam? What is your differential?
I don't follow?
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Max effort cams require a lot of work to maximize their potential.

Good ported heads milled down (and possibly flycutting the pistons), FAST 102, 4.10 rearend (aftermarket rear like a 12-bolt, 9", or S60 preferred), underdrive pulley, fuel system upgrades, etc.
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I gotcha. Would you consider an ms3 a max effort?
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Ditch the MS3 idea. The valve events make for no torque and it's using XE-R lobes which require a lot more attention to detail on the valvetrain.
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Attention to detail as in more upgraded parts? I've seen the 228R cams make good power with heads and basic bolt ons. What about a cam in the mid 230s for dur? I don't think my car is set up for a max effort cam. And I don't have that kind of $ to get it there either. I'm basically just looking at heads cam and possibly intake
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See, putting a huge cam in with stock gears and differential will result in a badly matched combo that will suck below 4000+rpm and it will not yield good performance.
What are your differential gears? Pick a cam that will work well with those.
I bet you want it to sound mean, for that you do not need big durations you need overlap. If I were you I would look into about 9* overlap or so. Plenty for the street.
After all, is your car going to be driven? Or you just want a high dyno number to talk about and park it?
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Originally Posted by predator-z
see, putting a huge cam in with stock gears and differential will result in a badly matched combo that will suck below 4000+rpm and it will not yield good performance.
What are your differential gears? Pick a cam that will work well with those.
I bet you want it to sound mean, for that you do not need big durations you need overlap. If i were you i would look into about 9* overlap or so. Plenty for the street.
After all, is your car going to be driven? Or you just want a high dyno number to talk about and park it?
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