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Old 08-21-2013 | 11:33 AM
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The thinner head gaskets will give a minimal increase in compression and they are pretty pricey at around $100 a pair for the cometics...depending on machine shop charges usually it would be cheaper to mill heads 0.030 or 0.040" and you pick up substantial compression around like half a point or more..
Old 08-21-2013 | 11:39 AM
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its basically 0.013" difference between the gaskets which is not a TON but should allow better quench. Now, doing BOTH would be best of both worlds.
Old 08-21-2013 | 07:18 PM
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No doubt...just cheaper to mill, them cometics are expensive
Old 08-21-2013 | 08:32 PM
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While the benefits are minimal for either, a .040 gasket will increase compression around .3 and provide a better quench which is beneficial. Milling plus mls gaskets will probably be more expensive than cometics plus milling reduduces flow and can increase valve shrouding. I reccomend both, but fact is fact if its one or the other the thinner gasket is the better option.
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Even at a 10 or 20 thou its going to make THAT big of a difference on fill? High lift or low lift scenario?
Old 08-22-2013 | 08:42 AM
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An .030" mill isn't going to be enough to shroud the valves to the extent your talking, a stock head gasket is 0.050, so picking up 10 on the head gasket doesn't have near the benefit of compression increase of 3 times that with mill, I didn't think the milling was that much $$...
Old 08-22-2013 | 08:55 AM
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Milling isn't much $. I just wanted a reliable 11:1 that I do not have to worry about detonating on 91 oct which is why I wanted the thinner gasket to increase quench.
Old 08-22-2013 | 08:56 AM
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What would milling the heads cost about roughly? If it's $50 and MLS gaskets are around $50 it would be cheaper to go just the cometic gasket route which are anywhere from $85 to $103 depending on bore size.

Let me edit that, those prices for cometics are for 1 only!! So $85-$103 each. http://www.texas-speed.com/p-2258-co...3910-bore.aspx

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Old 08-22-2013 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Apocolipse
Milling isn't much $. I just wanted a reliable 11:1 that I do not have to worry about detonating on 91 oct which is why I wanted the thinner gasket to increase quench.
Remember the pistons are out of the hole about .007-.008".
I think .035" quench is safe. Kind of leaves you with the .045" gasket, and they are spendy.

On 91, I'd concentrate on quench first, CR second.

Just my opinion.

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Old 08-22-2013 | 10:11 AM
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I don't mind spending money on gaskets. It is cheaper than chunking a piston and doing a rebuild due to detonation. I value your opinion for sure.

Even a small mill on the head would be a good idea to get the cometic to seal properly. But.. what about the block finish? Will I have to get that decked with a cometic? Or just get some copper spray?
Old 08-22-2013 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Bad28
Just like the title says what are the differences I know that they are basically the same head but what is the difference
90 whp...
Old 08-22-2013 | 02:26 PM
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.030 is good on these engines.
Old 08-23-2013 | 03:54 PM
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It looks like cometic offers thinner gaskets even... 0.027"

http://www.jegs.com/i/Cometic-Gasket...ductId=2848860

Maybe a bit too much quench?

To the poster above, 0.030 total quench?

So since the pistons come out about 7 thou, can run the 0.036 gasket and be around 30 like you say...

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Old 08-23-2013 | 07:42 PM
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If this is street then .03x is the tightest I would go.
Old 08-24-2013 | 11:26 PM
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Yup street car. Ill measure how much it comes outs hole. Seems usually 7 thou. 41 gasket @ 7 thou is 34... 36 puts me at 29...



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