Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

which cam?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 13, 2013 | 12:56 AM
  #1  
02silverbulletZ28's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
 
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 134
Likes: 0
From: York, PA
Default which cam?

im looking to get 450+ hp, on a stock bottom end. the car is not daily driven but will be driven on the street maybe once or twice a month. i was looking at getting the brian tooley n/a stage IV but my ? is which would be better that or a ms4? also what heads would should i get with the cam that is better for what im looking for?
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2013 | 04:43 AM
  #2  
HCI2000SS's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 11,137
Likes: 20
From: Howell & Fenton MI
Default

First of all...how much do you want to spend on the heads, or does that not matter?
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2013 | 05:17 AM
  #3  
Brian Tooley Racing's Avatar
FormerVendor
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 1,943
Likes: 7
From: Bardstown, KY
Default

The Stg IV cam has made 450+ on two engines with stock LS6 heads and intake, so I would be looking for some unmolested 243's or 799's. Good headers and exhaust will also be required to achieve that power level.

The Stg IV cam features great durability and torque production.
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2013 | 01:13 PM
  #4  
02silverbulletZ28's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
 
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 134
Likes: 0
From: York, PA
Default

price is not so much a factor, i would like to stay around 2000 or less. my plan is to get as close to 500 hp without getting into the bottom end and no power adders. i eventually want to build a 427, but that is way down the road. right now the car has 125,000 miles has LT, with 3" exhaust, fast fuel rails and slp intake. what i would like to do is get a cam, heads, injectors, fast 102mm intake & TB, tuned. Then i will be getting a moser 9" rear and all the suspension upgraded then i will start building the new motor. so it will be a long process. i only have one day off a week so i'd like to get a part list together and start ordering the parts and once i have everything i will start the build so the car is down the least amount of time.
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2013 | 01:17 PM
  #5  
02silverbulletZ28's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
 
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 134
Likes: 0
From: York, PA
Default

ls7 lifters, ls6 timing chain, hi-flow oil pump, valve springs with titanium retainers, push rods and injectors. is there anything else should have to upgrade when doing a cam install?
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2013 | 01:20 PM
  #6  
02silverbulletZ28's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
 
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 134
Likes: 0
From: York, PA
Default

Originally Posted by Brian Tooley
The Stg IV cam has made 450+ on two engines with stock LS6 heads and intake, so I would be looking for some unmolested 243's or 799's. Good headers and exhaust will also be required to achieve that power level.

The Stg IV cam features great durability and torque production.
which head is going to be a better for this cam? I've heard a lot about 243's but not 799's. this is all new to me im a diesel mechanic so this is a different world. also what size injectors do you recommend?
Reply
Old Sep 16, 2013 | 04:50 PM
  #7  
Brian Tooley Racing's Avatar
FormerVendor
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 1,943
Likes: 7
From: Bardstown, KY
Default

Originally Posted by 02silverbulletZ28
which head is going to be a better for this cam? I've heard a lot about 243's but not 799's. this is all new to me im a diesel mechanic so this is a different world. also what size injectors do you recommend?
The 243 and 799 heads have the same ports, the 799 has sand cast chambers so they're just slightly rougher, but should make the same power.

I like the Bosch 36 lb/hr white injectors for what you're doing. They're also sold under Fast and are in stock.
Reply
Old Sep 16, 2013 | 05:02 PM
  #8  
Sales2@Texas-speed's Avatar
LS1Tech Premium Sponsor
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 5,053
Likes: 7
From: Texas!
Default

A cam as large as the MS4 isnt necessary to hit 450rwhp heads and full bolt-ons, but it can do the job and should exceed it. Take a look at our As-Cast heads. They will out perform our 243's as they sit and every set is hand blended. For the money they are pretty tough to beat and you get all the benefits of an aftermarket casting.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-5

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-6

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:02 PM.

story-0
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-1
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-2
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-3
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-6
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-7
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-8
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE