Probably a Dyno Dynamics dyno.

 

lol, Yes you & JakeFusion were right with the springs.

I am not sure Martin but will find out.
I was hoping to hear from the tuner today telling me a fuel filter change fixed it, alas my phone was silent lol.
I want to call them but also don't wish to annoy them with calls when they are busy.
Their lack of call makes me think it's not the filter. Grrrrrr.

 

Do some digging. Not everything you hear on here is gospel. Look at wire sizes, coil counts, ect. between the two and then tell me what the difference is.

 

Tooley Springs are Patriot Golds unless he has changed his springs recently. He bought all the old Patriot Stock and rebranded them. That being said they are still a good spring either way.

Too many people on here throw out brands and info that have no actual experience with it themselves. Kinda like knocking the lsk lobe all the time when I have seen it daily driven for 15-30k miles many many times with zero issues. I'm not trying to start an argument, just saying.

 

Well this is interesting!

Anyone got some more info on this.....Hate to think I have just replaced my Patriot Golds with a re-named Patriot, even though it has helped sort part of the problem I was having.

Martin are you around to comment on this!

 

Tooley claims they are different and were the standard on TEA heads for a while. TSP stated that they are the Patriots. The spring pressures are different IIRC. It's probably the same manufacturer, so yes, I'm well aware of the "story." And I don't just spout crap I read on here.

I did talk to the folks selling the stuff. Whether there is some deceit happening, I don't know. But I know Tooley bought up the Golds and sold them as a different spring kit from his springs.

I will say this: if they are gold they are good until you put about 10k miles on them. Then they'd need to be checked. At which point, I'd look at PRC 650s or the PAC 1904s I have...

 

Thanks man, At least if I know whats what & I can be aware of any future drama.

The main consenus was to install BTR springs & my problems would be fixed, now to maybe find the BTR springs are Patriot but re-branded. mmmmm
I had the choice of which springs to use, if PRC was a better spring & I had known I would have used.

I get it that there is loyalty here, those in the know that can help with the better choices need to speak up.

jakeFusion I have relished your imput here.

This damn car of mine had better be up & running this weekend as it's just a fueling issue now holding it back.
Need to be cruising around our Auckland waterfront & letting the sound of the Tick SNS stg 3 echo off the buildings in the main street of Aucklands shopping centre.

 

I was under the assumption that BTR's "extreme" springs were the old patriot golds he bought out and even said that after they sell off they are done... That's why there was a price difference between those and his platinum springs..

 

OK, I bought the Platinum 660s so where's that leave me?

 

Martin recommends BTR springs with his cams and sells them in the cam kits. You're fine. With any springs and aggressive lobes, it's wise to pull a valve cover and check them every 10-15k miles.

And remember, let the car come up to operating temp before thrashing on the springs. That will help their longevity as well.

 

Sweet as, I never ever hit hard on the engine till I have at least run it 13km through traffic.

i've had many a mate tell me to hit it or take someone on when I am not near the operating temp I like to see....so I just pass, much to their disgust, but hey, it's my engine lol.

 

Hey there ls1 1990VN you have a nice ride, I take it the local constabulary around NZ don't mind the thump of a wild cam ?
No longer that way around here anymore. Even a slightly louder exhaust gets you pinged with a letter in the mail.
I'm hanging to see your opinion of that cam it's quite a big stick. Is your build only street or drag/track too?

 

Hi, and thanks.
Cams are no problem here,
Noisy exhausts will get you ticketed & possibly made to rectify to be below 90db. Mine is 3.5" so is not that quiet haha
Boy racer cars 'Jappas' Euro & rough looking Falcons & Commys will get pulled.
I was crapping myself a few months ago driving up Aucklands main street as a marked cop car was beside me & a mufty car behind. I was trying to drive as quiet as possible lol.
They sure had a good hard look at me.
It is my weekend car come sprint racing at Pukekohe & Hampton Downs. circuits.

 

Good stuff

I had a VP a few cars back with a built 355, nobody was doing LS1 conversions on them back then...She must feel like a hell of a lot of fun to drive.
I hope it all gets worked out for you..Good luck

 

Your good!!

 

I had the conversion done back in 02. By all accounts it was the first LS1 conversion into a VN/VS chassis here or Aust.

Yea it's fun due to it not having all the later Commodore refinements & the harshness feeling makes it sooo old school.

Catches a lot of the later Falcons/Commys off guard lol.


That's good to hear.
Hoping to have the car back this week if they can sort out the fuel issue, hopefully just the intank pump...It is 10yrs old now.

 

We've never sold any Patriot Gold springs as they were the worst springs that we found in spintron testing.

Patriot sold two different types of springs, the "Gold" and the "Xtreme". The "Xtreme" springs were a decent spring other than suffering from load loss too quickly. The gold coating that was applied to the Patriot springs seemed to contribute to load loss.

We did sell the old Patriot "Xtreme" springs as our "Extreme" springs P/N SK003 which have now been discontinued.

The primary dual springs we sell are the best springs that we found in spintron testing which are the .660" lift "Platinum" springs P/N SK001. The polished finish of these springs give them the best possible resistance to fracture.

 

Glad you cleared this up Brian, i have a set on the way and did not like the life i got out of the patriots, would not like to change them every 10k. was looking for better than patriot.

 

UPDATE

I finally pick up the car tomorrow around noon.
A new Walbro fuel pump was fitted today & it has fixed the lack of fuel pressure in the upper rpms.

The engine is STILL falling short of it's rpm limit & nose diving now at 6700rpm.
The shame about that is, it is still apparently making power.

Only things now that I didn't change, pushrod thickness 'maybe they're flexing' & the valves, love to have gone with LS3.

Such a pity I can't get the best out of this engine.

I guess tomorrow I will be flat broke after paying for all this.

BUT
So f--kn glad to be getting the thing back.

 

I have the AFR 8019 springs and found that the 3/8 double taper pushrods started showing improvement at just over 6,000 RPM as compared to standard 5/16" pushrods. I would definitely consider bigger pushrods to ensure there is no valve bounce or other issues that will severely degrade longevity of the valve train. I bought my double tapers from Trend and they are machined out of a single piece of billet steel rod. Very nice part.