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Old Oct 22, 2013 | 10:37 PM
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Cool BTR/AI First Start


Car is on a Frost mail order tune for startup.

Ai 243 226cc heads
BTR 235/242 111+3 cam
Fast 92/NW 92mm TB
BTR SLR Lifters
36lb Fast Injectors
Powerbond UDP
FTRA
Descreened stock MAF
Stainless works longtubes
Catted ypipe
Slp dual/dual

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Old Oct 22, 2013 | 10:57 PM
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That's such a cool setup man, good luck with it. That should run really strong. AI does great work as does Tooley. I had those very same heads on my old setup and cracked 460 rwhp with a much smaller cam. You might see in the 470s with that big mother if you get a FAST.

Did you notch the pistons?
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Old Oct 22, 2013 | 11:17 PM
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No flycutting, it does have a fast 92, as well as every bolt on. Underdrive pulley, ftra, etc. I didn't list every mod, just a quick list. Pretty excited, I've had the car for almost 7 years, this is a long time coming.
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nice dude, should run strong...
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Interested to hear about driveability & light-throttle surging with that setup & a Frost mail-order tune.
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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 06:08 AM
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The mail order tune was just to get it running. Hopefully get a chance to drive it soon, pending on this crap weather
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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by hiltsy855
Interested to hear about driveability & light-throttle surging with that setup & a Frost mail-order tune.
all in the tune and 4.10 gears help, betting he can get a local to dial it in .....I daily drove my 99 with a TREX, barely any surging and only at a crawl in stop'n'go traffic...Got rid of it for a cam with much better low end/mid-range...
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Solid setup. AI heads are the ****.
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Originally Posted by ezzlez28
The mail order tune was just to get it running. Hopefully get a chance to drive it soon, pending on this crap weather
I understand and the weather is starting to suck here too. Just wondering how it drives with that combination of parts + mail-order tune.
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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 12:34 PM
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In frost we trust! Lol....anyway nice set up man, looks like the set up I'm building towards...hurry up and drive it before this weather doesn't allow u!
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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 03:54 PM
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How much do you have invested in the heads?
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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 03:57 PM
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I picked them up in the classifieds on here for 1400 with .650 lift springs installed, pretty decent deal.
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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 04:05 PM
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Why'd you go with that cam? Just seems like a big split for heads that flow near 80% through out the lift.
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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 05:59 PM
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There is a lot more than the split between durations to cams. I emailed and talked to Brian Tooley about which to go with. Decided between his stage 3 and 4 cams. With the amount of driving (not much) and what I wanted from it, I picked this one.

Took it for the first drive tonight, about 20 miles. The tune is what I expected, bucks during some rpms but it was okay at 60 in 6th on the freeway. I took it up to about 5000 rpms in second gear and the car shot sideways as the power crept up. The cool air didn't help traction but it felt violent. Can't wait to get a full tune and really let it breathe.
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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 07:19 PM
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Please update this post when you get some dyno numbers . I'm looking into these AI heads on my 408 and maybe a cam that works well with them.
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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 07:30 PM
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Sounds good, I agree about posting dyno numbers
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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 08:34 PM
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Very true, but conventional cathedral cams with heads like that are closer in duration. Just wondering why you chose that was all. And sub'd for results as I'd like to do a 240/242 cam on these heads, also on 111.
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BTR cam was tested by Tooley and that's the optimal power profile. It's not surprising. LG had the G5X3 a decade ago that was a 234/242 and it worked incredibly well, even with AFR heads, which have tremendous exhaust to intake ratio flow.

You can see what I went with... the added exhaust duration increases the overlap (which usually means more power in cathedral port heads) and creates a longer exhaust valve opening that literally sucks the intake charge into the cylinder. The added exhaust helps power hold on after peak better than single pattern or small split cams.
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Originally Posted by ezzlez28
...Took it for the first drive tonight, about 20 miles. The tune is what I expected, bucks during some rpms but it was okay at 60 in 6th on the freeway.....
Thanks for the update. Let me know if your tuner has any luck getting rid of the bucking.
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Originally Posted by JakeFusion™
BTR cam was tested by Tooley and that's the optimal power profile. It's not surprising. LG had the G5X3 a decade ago that was a 234/242 and it worked incredibly well, even with AFR heads, which have tremendous exhaust to intake ratio flow.

You can see what I went with... the added exhaust duration increases the overlap (which usually means more power in cathedral port heads) and creates a longer exhaust valve opening that literally sucks the intake charge into the cylinder. The added exhaust helps power hold on after peak better than single pattern or small split cams.
Oh I know, and had a 5X3 in my street car forever ago...my little 228/232 on 110 kills it under the curve though. Big top end cams in street cars is just not fun for me.
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