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Old Nov 16, 2013 | 08:03 PM
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can some one give me a quick comparison of these 2 heads? Please and thank you. i could not open the stickey with head info as i got a new lap top and no excel on it.
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Old Nov 16, 2013 | 08:17 PM
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They are the exact same head, other than they came on different years of engines.
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853 are a little rougher inside than the 241, they were cast differently
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Old Nov 16, 2013 | 08:39 PM
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awesome thanks guys. could i run one of each on an engine or is it a must to run a match pair?
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can some one give me a quick comparison of these 2 heads? Please and thank you. i could not open the stickey with head info as i got a new lap top and no excel on it.
I have a set of 853 heads ported with comp cam beehive 600 lift spring kit. not deck and a set deck 30 thousands. the none deck comes with thunder racing 7.4 push rods. if you need pics let me know. 700$ with push rods. none decked 600$. shipping flat rate 50$ anywhere usa.
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i need cheap bro but thanks for the offer.
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Hey I tried to pm you about the heads I have for sale but it says your pms are disabled. I replied in my for sale thread but Ill tell you here. my email is unclebsd@yahoo.com
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Originally Posted by Slimsilverado
i need cheap bro but thanks for the offer.
what kinda of money you got to spend? sorry but you are going to need push rods, head gaskets, and if you buy used and dont know how to check your valve and lap them then your taking a huge risk. trust me I understand being in collage or you dont have big paying job. Ill work with you. I have everything you need. even just a stock set.. I have flow bench and port these things my self, so its a hobby for me. name your price maybe we can come up with a deal. I take pic of every step of every process and show each valve to show they are still good and lap correctly. its protection for you and me. if not please pass the word around im porting 853 and 241 heads I like them better more material to work with and the heads are a hell of a lot cheaper than 243. plus I get almost the same numbers, so hit me up if this interests you. thanks
p.s I know the comp ratios are different so no need to mention.out
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Originally Posted by pimpin2011sierra
what kinda of money you got to spend? sorry but you are going to need push rods, head gaskets, and if you buy used and dont know how to check your valve and lap them then your taking a huge risk. trust me I understand being in collage or you dont have big paying job. Ill work with you. I have everything you need. even just a stock set.. I have flow bench and port these things my self, so its a hobby for me. name your price maybe we can come up with a deal. I take pic of every step of every process and show each valve to show they are still good and lap correctly. its protection for you and me. if not please pass the word around im porting 853 and 241 heads I like them better more material to work with and the heads are a hell of a lot cheaper than 243. plus I get almost the same numbers, so hit me up if this interests you. thanks
p.s I know the comp ratios are different so no need to mention.out
What kinda flow numbers are you getting out of 853's?
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Email sent coonass
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Originally Posted by X-Bomb Racing
What kinda flow numbers are you getting out of 853's?
Im getting 81.5 cc out of exhaust, and 212 cc out of intake
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Originally Posted by pimpin2011sierra
Im getting 81.5 cc out of exhaust, and 212 cc out of intake
sorry i meant cfm numbers.
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Aren't flow numbers measured in CFM?
OP: difference is one is sand cast (853) and rougher feel where not machined and the 241 is smooth cast. Early 853 heads can not be used w MLS gaskets and later ones can. the difference is the deck surface where the head gasket goes around the perimeter there is a large notch that will not compress the gasket surface. All 241s can be used w MLS gaskets.
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 09:27 PM
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10-4 dan there is a notch on one head around the perimiter. I think thats where I am leaking. Thanks for the input Dan.
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Dan could I just pull the mls gasket and use a fel pro permatorque gasket??? Or order a factory gasket???
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Originally Posted by X-Bomb Racing
sorry i meant cfm numbers.
I used a set of cnc ported 243 heads from a top name company and measure the volume they held. I didn't want to over port since I have never cut a stock set of 853 up and measured the thickness of each port to water jacket and spring relief. I have been porting for almost tens years in the motor cycle industry and once owned a dyno company so flowing heads means you pay a **** ton of money. Sorry no flow numbers brother. I just want to get some 853 ported for some people at a cheap price, since those heads are everywhere and there like 50-100$. I put in like 6 hrs per head. I have plenty of pics for anyone to see. thanks
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They are both a crap head, 243 is the only one thats worth anything
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Originally Posted by pimpin2011sierra
I used a set of cnc ported 243 heads from a top name company and measure the volume they held. I didn't want to over port since I have never cut a stock set of 853 up and measured the thickness of each port to water jacket and spring relief. I have been porting for almost tens years in the motor cycle industry and once owned a dyno company so flowing heads means you pay a **** ton of money. Sorry no flow numbers brother. I just want to get some 853 ported for some people at a cheap price, since those heads are everywhere and there like 50-100$. I put in like 6 hrs per head. I have plenty of pics for anyone to see. thanks
I was just curious what others are getting. I just had a set ported and flowed.
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Originally Posted by Slimsilverado
Dan could I just pull the mls gasket and use a fel pro permatorque gasket??? Or order a factory gasket???
Yes you would need a permatorque gasket or the early ls1 gasket that wasnt mls.
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Originally Posted by chevyrunner
They are both a crap head, 243 is the only one thats worth anything
Thats funny. Bader of ripspeed racing went 8.90s at 148 or so on stock 853s w a cam and bolt ons w a super vic and 250 shot of.nitrous
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