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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 12:34 PM
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Ok so we just completed checking all of my dimensions, just wanted to post them up and see if everything checks out with what everyone on here is running.

Intake and Exhaust both measured out to require 7.450" to acveive a .080" preload.

Intake PTV measured out to be .058".

Exhaust PTV measured out to be .179".
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Originally Posted by Bama99z
Ok so we just completed checking all of my dimensions, just wanted to post them up and see if everything checks out with what everyone on here is running.

Intake and Exhaust both measured out to require 7.450" to acveive a .080" preload.

Intake PTV measured out to be .058".

Exhaust PTV measured out to be .179".
that intake PTV clearance is a little close for comfort... especially the intake valve since its moving down as the piston is going up. if you have a well built valvetrain and you dont over rev the car you should be ok. but one mistake and there goes the valve. i always liked .080 intake and .120 exhaust
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pushrod length has nothing to do with PTV unless you have bottomed out the lifter


intake is a bit close, but it should be fine
exhaust has plenty of room and then some

the normal standard is .80/.100 for safety.

if you only used 5/16 pushrods... they will flex some and help with PTV clearance on the intake

over rev has nothing to do with PTV...but valvetrain stability does...
so make sure the rest of your valvetrain is up to snuff....good springs, plenty of open pressure to control Lifter Loft and bounce.
shim springs to be within .050 of coil bind..
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Originally Posted by Bama99z
Intake PTV measured out to be .058".

Exhaust PTV measured out to be .179".
And where has the ICL of the cam ended up?

Depending on this and the actual cam specs, you could possibly retard the cam to increase clearance on the intake side.
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Originally Posted by soundengineer
pushrod length has nothing to do with PTV unless you have bottomed out the lifter


intake is a bit close, but it should be fine
exhaust has plenty of room and then some

the normal standard is .80/.100 for safety.

if you only used 5/16 pushrods... they will flex some and help with PTV clearance on the intake

over rev has nothing to do with PTV...but valvetrain stability does...
so make sure the rest of your valvetrain is up to snuff....good springs, plenty of open pressure to control Lifter Loft and bounce.
shim springs to be within .050 of coil bind..
soundengineer,Thanks for thi input. I have been working with Brian Tooley on my heads, cam and valvetrain. Actually the complete top end was purchased from him. Originally he suggested that I go with a 3/8" dia pushrod. I didn't order them whem the heads and other items were purchased becuase I wanted to measure and buy once if you know what I mean.

The new heads were set up by Tooley for my Yella Terra's. So everything should be good.

I'll be calling Brian tomorrow to order the pushrods and I'll discuss my PTV and everything with him.

I just posted up my dimensions to see if I within the ballpark.

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And where has the ICL of the cam ended up?

Depending on this and the actual cam specs, you could possibly retard the cam to increase clearance on the intake side.
VLS1, man the cam card is out in the shop, and it's raining and cold as heck today. I'am just now begining to warm up from my last trip ouy there.
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Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
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Originally Posted by Fastdriver1992
that intake PTV clearance is a little close for comfort... especially the intake valve since its moving down as the piston is going up. if you have a well built valvetrain and you dont over rev the car you should be ok. but one mistake and there goes the valve. i always liked .080 intake and .120 exhaust
It's actually the reverse. The intake chases the piston down the head and the exhaust hangs open as the piston travels back up... think about what's happening in the cycle. You need to fill the cylinder on the intake stroke and you must push spent gas out on the exhaust stroke. Therefore, the exhaust clearance is more important.

~.060" intake clearance is fine. Things expand when they are hot and this is why you need sufficient clearance in the .060" range. .080 may be ideal, but most "cam" only setups run much closer than that on the intake.
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Thanks guys, I spoke with Brian Tooley, today, as he is the one that I bought my top end setup from. He thinks that maybe when we checked PTV clearance that we made a boo boo. So we will be re-checking this before we install the new pushrods. As I should have alot more than what I was coming up with.

The heads were setup by Brian for Yella Terrs rockers. Hopefully my new head studs will be here tomorrow and I can proceed on!!!
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When you say setup, do you mean he included the necessary shims for the pedestal to get proper wipe? Make sure those are installed and the wipe is narrow on the valve before you measure pushrod length. Also... bolt everything down and get everything installed as you plan to run it before you measure PtV. I made that mistake and I was off .015"... which normally isn't much, but I have the short travel lifters.
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Originally Posted by JakeFusion™
When you say setup, do you mean he included the necessary shims for the pedestal to get proper wipe? Make sure those are installed and the wipe is narrow on the valve before you measure pushrod length. Also... bolt everything down and get everything installed as you plan to run it before you measure PtV. I made that mistake and I was off .015"... which normally isn't much, but I have the short travel lifters.
Jake to be honest with you when I bought all of my stuff from Brian, he asked me what rockers that I would be using so that he could set everything up correctly.

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