LS1 to LS6.. or just drop an LS6 in?
[QUOTE=HioSSilver;17890236]My car is not a exception to the rule......it's a example what can be done when it's done with accelerating the car in mind. Which is what most are here for.
Yeah I know.....everyone has a hart breaking dyno
My ricer math comes from being on both. Funny how when that happens it turns into fact. Another fact is I have been on 3 different dyno jets and none varied more that 2hp. The last dyno jet I was on the car made 413, it has gained 18hp since then......you do the math.
Yeah....we're talking 9 sec cars here
. I was just saying your car don't run as it should.....and it don't. It runs bolt-on ls1 times with your mods.
You guys can either be butt hurt about what I said or you can keep a open mind and
realize I've been ******* with these ls engines for a long time. All with exceptional results or non typical results according to you. The only real problem I see is that you think sub par performance is normal.[/QUOTE
And opinions are just like A$$ holes..But your the only one with LS longevity here NOT! Talk about a ten year sticker going to ones head...lol Sorry about the thread highjack.
Yeah I know.....everyone has a hart breaking dyno
My ricer math comes from being on both. Funny how when that happens it turns into fact. Another fact is I have been on 3 different dyno jets and none varied more that 2hp. The last dyno jet I was on the car made 413, it has gained 18hp since then......you do the math.Yeah....we're talking 9 sec cars here
. I was just saying your car don't run as it should.....and it don't. It runs bolt-on ls1 times with your mods.You guys can either be butt hurt about what I said or you can keep a open mind and
realize I've been ******* with these ls engines for a long time. All with exceptional results or non typical results according to you. The only real problem I see is that you think sub par performance is normal.[/QUOTE
And opinions are just like A$$ holes..But your the only one with LS longevity here NOT! Talk about a ten year sticker going to ones head...lol Sorry about the thread highjack.
Last edited by Anthony Williams; Dec 17, 2013 at 02:42 PM.
If your gonna ask me why so slow you should first ask your self that question. A question to which I have already answered.
They went 10.1 @ 134....not sure if their best mph was on their best et pass.
No my car is not full weight.......why would any car be full weight that you are modding for performance?
Nope
Not freak of nature......they like I are just doin different **** than the same ol' same ol'. They do a great job and are more drag oriented than I.
They went 10.1 @ 134....not sure if their best mph was on their best et pass.
No my car is not full weight.......why would any car be full weight that you are modding for performance?
Nope
Not freak of nature......they like I are just doin different **** than the same ol' same ol'. They do a great job and are more drag oriented than I.
I don't float around the forums beating my chest that I have a stock LS6 that runs like a 408 stroked motor.
I built my car to road race, it does it very well I might add.
Unless your car is 3000lbs with you in it, your blowing smoke,very hard to believe it traps 130+. Unless you had a gum wrapper blow through the lights at the track lol.
My old LT1 car made 450 to the wheels, in outstanding DA it ran a best of 10.58@126 weighing 3600lbs sitting on the track.
The math isn't there. Physics is physics.
Yes freak of nature, granted they had other things done. Like a badass face plated t56... But nothing else out of the norm
It was TFS 215 heads ported by tooley
Custom cam
Yells Terra's
3/8 pushrods
Morel lifters
Pretty common I'd say
He got so much heat from people saying he sprayed nitrous that he ended up leaving this forum
I bought the whole top end kit from Robz's 9 sec c5 about 5 years ago.. The cam was top secret lol
I even called tommy from anger management after I purchased it and he couldn't remember the specs, just my luck.
It was TFS 215 heads ported by tooley
Custom cam
Yells Terra's
3/8 pushrods
Morel lifters
Pretty common I'd say
He got so much heat from people saying he sprayed nitrous that he ended up leaving this forum
I bought the whole top end kit from Robz's 9 sec c5 about 5 years ago.. The cam was top secret lol
I even called tommy from anger management after I purchased it and he couldn't remember the specs, just my luck.
I don't float around the forums beating my chest that I have a stock LS6 that runs like a 408 stroked motor.
I built my car to road race, it does it very well I might add.
Unless your car is 3000lbs with you in it, your blowing smoke,very hard to believe it traps 130+. Unless you had a gum wrapper blow through the lights at the track lol.
My old LT1 car made 450 to the wheels, in outstanding DA it ran a best of 10.58@126 weighing 3600lbs sitting on the track.
The math isn't there. Physics is physics.
I built my car to road race, it does it very well I might add.
Unless your car is 3000lbs with you in it, your blowing smoke,very hard to believe it traps 130+. Unless you had a gum wrapper blow through the lights at the track lol.
My old LT1 car made 450 to the wheels, in outstanding DA it ran a best of 10.58@126 weighing 3600lbs sitting on the track.
The math isn't there. Physics is physics.
Funny you mention road racing. I worked for PTG for 17 years. My car is far from a drag car although I do vary the set-up a little according to what I am doing with it. It turns pretty good to.
I have the Strano/koni's on my car.....again not drag oriented.
look like swiss cheese? Make sure you notice the ac stuff.....cruise stuff....washer tank don't hold fluid with holes in it
Have I lightened ****???????? HELL YEA..........**** YEA......Lighter weight is the ONLY mod that improves ALL aspects of performance.
What some of you get carried away thinking is my car was always as light as it is now. I know what it ran with the ls6 at full weight, syncro'd trans,........**** I even know what it ran on the stock ls1 tune with a hypertech turned up rev limit, I know what it ran on the stock gear.....stock cat back.
I'll give you guys hint......it was faster than a 12.4 @108
Sorry op......ls6's are awesome engines that give you alot of potential. As you can tell some never reach that potential because their raging **** cavity will not allow their head to look any further than inside their own *******. Feel free to pm me with any questions.
Yeah I know.....everyone has a hart breaking dyno
My ricer math comes from being on both. Funny how when that happens it turns into fact. Another fact is I have been on 3 different dyno jets and none varied more that 2hp. The last dyno jet I was on the car made 413, it has gained 18hp since then......you do the math.Cammed bolt on C5 which dyno'd 399-403rwhp on 2 other Dynojets made 345rwhp
big cammed 243 head bolt on fbody m6 made 378rwhp
near full bolt on A4 ls1 fbody with locked converter 303 rwhp
It's clear that it wasn't exactly reading typical numbers.
I've been plenty open minded before but honestly it seems you are always first to jump into people's threads telling them what **** numbers they are making or what **** times they are running, stroking your own e-****, then bouncing without ever really offering much advice in how someone can help improve.
Here was yet another chance for you to grace everyone, instead you basically call the couple of us who very politely implied your car was "above average" crybaby idiots and act like we called your car a POS.
You didn't mention you had actually been on one, you just said what it "should" make on one. As far as the one I was talking about you can be sarcastic all you want since most people do claim every dyno is a heartbreaker but when I saw:
Cammed bolt on C5 which dyno'd 399-403rwhp on 2 other Dynojets made 345rwhp
big cammed 243 head bolt on fbody m6 made 378rwhp
near full bolt on A4 ls1 fbody with locked converter 303 rwhp
It's clear that it wasn't exactly reading typical numbers.
I've been plenty open minded before but honestly it seems you are always first to jump into people's threads telling them what **** numbers they are making or what **** times they are running, stroking your own e-****, then bouncing without ever really offering much advice in how someone can help improve.
Here was yet another chance for you to grace everyone, instead you basically call the couple of us who very politely implied your car was "above average" crybaby idiots and act like we called your car a POS.
Cammed bolt on C5 which dyno'd 399-403rwhp on 2 other Dynojets made 345rwhp
big cammed 243 head bolt on fbody m6 made 378rwhp
near full bolt on A4 ls1 fbody with locked converter 303 rwhp
It's clear that it wasn't exactly reading typical numbers.
I've been plenty open minded before but honestly it seems you are always first to jump into people's threads telling them what **** numbers they are making or what **** times they are running, stroking your own e-****, then bouncing without ever really offering much advice in how someone can help improve.
Here was yet another chance for you to grace everyone, instead you basically call the couple of us who very politely implied your car was "above average" crybaby idiots and act like we called your car a POS.
I can sense smartass sarcasm and it quickly turns to that. Instead of asking how or why it's "Not all run like yours" or "above average" or "physics". It's not really other than I have sorted things out to get it there.
I'm showing what can be done......a ls6 running bolt-on ls1 times is not a good example period. Hell look at the **** I get.......and I'm way off on et.
Poking at weight loss....calling swiss cheese......thinking full weight is better is all butt hurt bs that's getting spewed. To me if your into making your car faster less weight should be a constant evolution. Does that mean gutted????? Nope.
So are you saying I should stop telling people their **** runs like **** when it does?
Or should I try to help and give the advice I have learned threw hands on modding of these cars?
Of course I have been on a dyno jet.......why would I say what I said if I hadn't. You were quick to call ricer math ****.
Instead of asking how or why it's "Not all run like yours" or "above average" or "physics". It's not really other than I have sorted things out to get it there.
So are you saying I should stop telling people their **** runs like **** when it does? Or should I try to help and give the advice I have learned threw hands on modding of these cars?
Instead of asking how or why it's "Not all run like yours" or "above average" or "physics". It's not really other than I have sorted things out to get it there.
So are you saying I should stop telling people their **** runs like **** when it does? Or should I try to help and give the advice I have learned threw hands on modding of these cars?
If you haven't done anything different than what everyone else is doing and getting worse results, then yours is "above average". That's what "above average" means. Nothing more.
The last 2 remarks quoted above was the whole point of my first post. Instead of coming in and telling people "man something must be wrong with your car" then posting what yours runs and nothing more, maybe ask a couple questions and pass along some of that hands on experience you have?
If you really think every car is capable of what yours is and that yours is not the exception to the rule, then maybe toss out an idea or 2 as to how the poster can work towards that.
I've been over my car with a fine tooth comb many times and if I posted the numbers it runs or dynos you would probably tell me to burn it. Who knows maybe there is a problem but it's been apart and together 3 times in the years since the ls1 swap and the problem hasn't turned up yet. It keeps getting faster with every mod but it would still fall well below your expectations.
Of course I have been on a dyno jet.......why would I say what I said if I hadn't. You were quick to call ricer math ****. Not all dyno's read the same.....we all know that. The dyno jets I have been on were very very close. This why track times can be used to prove or disprove dyno claims. Of course they can very greatly too.
I can sense smartass sarcasm and it quickly turns to that. Instead of asking how or why it's "Not all run like yours" or "above average" or "physics". It's not really other than I have sorted things out to get it there.
I'm showing what can be done......a ls6 running bolt-on ls1 times is not a good example period. Hell look at the **** I get.......and I'm way off on et.
Poking at weight loss....calling swiss cheese......thinking full weight is better is all butt hurt bs that's getting spewed. To me if your into making your car faster less weight should be a constant evolution. Does that mean gutted????? Nope.
So are you saying I should stop telling people their **** runs like **** when it does?
Or should I try to help and give the advice I have learned threw hands on modding of these cars?
I can sense smartass sarcasm and it quickly turns to that. Instead of asking how or why it's "Not all run like yours" or "above average" or "physics". It's not really other than I have sorted things out to get it there.
I'm showing what can be done......a ls6 running bolt-on ls1 times is not a good example period. Hell look at the **** I get.......and I'm way off on et.
Poking at weight loss....calling swiss cheese......thinking full weight is better is all butt hurt bs that's getting spewed. To me if your into making your car faster less weight should be a constant evolution. Does that mean gutted????? Nope.
So are you saying I should stop telling people their **** runs like **** when it does?
Or should I try to help and give the advice I have learned threw hands on modding of these cars?
HIho's a lier http://www.competitiondiesel.com/Phil/bg/ EVERYONE PLEASE CHECK HIho's numbers.. TRAPPING 130 ON 417 rwhp NOT ON THIS PLANET!!
I'm out!
Last edited by Anthony Williams; Dec 17, 2013 at 03:50 PM.
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Verdad Gallardo Your post said what it "should" make on a dynojet along with a % increase you were adding to your real dyno number. That is ricer math and I didn't say it as a derogatory, it is simply the pure definition of ricer math.
If you haven't done anything different than what everyone else is doing and getting worse results, then yours is "above average". That's what "above average" means. Nothing more.
The last 2 remarks quoted above was the whole point of my first post. Instead of coming in and telling people "man something must be wrong with your car" then posting what yours runs and nothing more, maybe ask a couple questions and pass along some of that hands on experience you have?
If you really think every car is capable of what yours is and that yours is not the exception to the rule, then maybe toss out an idea or 2 as to how the poster can work towards that.
I've been over my car with a fine tooth comb many times and if I posted the numbers it runs or dynos you would probably tell me to burn it. Who knows maybe there is a problem but it's been apart and together 3 times in the years since the ls1 swap and the problem hasn't turned up yet. It keeps getting faster with every mod but it would still fall well below your expectations.
If you haven't done anything different than what everyone else is doing and getting worse results, then yours is "above average". That's what "above average" means. Nothing more.
The last 2 remarks quoted above was the whole point of my first post. Instead of coming in and telling people "man something must be wrong with your car" then posting what yours runs and nothing more, maybe ask a couple questions and pass along some of that hands on experience you have?
If you really think every car is capable of what yours is and that yours is not the exception to the rule, then maybe toss out an idea or 2 as to how the poster can work towards that.
I've been over my car with a fine tooth comb many times and if I posted the numbers it runs or dynos you would probably tell me to burn it. Who knows maybe there is a problem but it's been apart and together 3 times in the years since the ls1 swap and the problem hasn't turned up yet. It keeps getting faster with every mod but it would still fall well below your expectations.
Sure I do **** different than other people. Most do **** like ****. Their results show it. The devil is usually in the details. It's mostly about crossing your T's and dotting your I's. W/O knowing everyone's set-up and actually seeing it alot is hard to say.
I'll give you a example.....my maf is descreened and ported. There are alot of people that says that's wrong. My results say other wise.
Another example.....Alot says a fast intake is not worth it over a ls6. My results picked up 13rwp with my ported fast over my ported ls6.
Some will say a ewp is not worth it.......my results say different. Especially after I modded it.
Some will bolt-on headers and y pipe and leave that neck down area where it goes into the y......not me.
BTW.....why do I have to baby sit and worry about hurting someone's feelings over a car. Is this Romper room????.....are we really that politically correct?
Thunder it's good that you keep getting faster with every mod. You're sorting it out. Your learning the details.......which is the same way I got here. Not that I started with a ls6 goin 12.4 @ 108.........it was much faster than that 1st time out. That is how I know his car is not running as it should.
As I said, a classic example of a 10 year sticker gone to ones head, hopefully time teaches ya Hiho to get ALL the facts before spewing all that **** from your mouth...LoL..
HIho's a lier http://www.competitiondiesel.com/Phil/bg/ EVERYONE PLEASE CHECK HIho's numbers.. TRAPPING 130 ON 417 rwhp NOT ON THIS PLANET!!
I'm out!
HIho's a lier http://www.competitiondiesel.com/Phil/bg/ EVERYONE PLEASE CHECK HIho's numbers.. TRAPPING 130 ON 417 rwhp NOT ON THIS PLANET!!
I'm out!
https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-raci...aps-130-a.html
BAM.....and just that easy Anthony is a idiot.
Last edited by HioSSilver; Dec 17, 2013 at 04:19 PM.
I've plugged his numbers in every calculator made and it just doesn't add up. To run the mph you have with a weight of 2900 your hp number is 536, your bolt on ls6 doesn't make that
2900 and 430 whp comes out to 121-122
I'm not sure what you said your car weighed, picked 29xxx as a guess, and I'd imagine it's more than that.
Either way, just because someone's car doesn't run your physics bending mph and et doesn't mean something is wrong with their car like you're so quick to chime in
2900 and 430 whp comes out to 121-122
I'm not sure what you said your car weighed, picked 29xxx as a guess, and I'd imagine it's more than that.
Either way, just because someone's car doesn't run your physics bending mph and et doesn't mean something is wrong with their car like you're so quick to chime in
I know exactly what I said on the dyno's. I knew the difference was 3.5% because I had been on both. Ricer math is derogatory....and you meant it in that manner. You could have asked how I know the difference between the dyn's are 3.5%.......but instead "ricer math".
Sure I do **** different than other people. Most do **** like ****. Their results show it. The devil is usually in the details. It's mostly about crossing your T's and dotting your I's. W/O knowing everyone's set-up and actually seeing it alot is hard to say.
I'll give you a example.....my maf is descreened and ported. There are alot of people that says that's wrong. My results say other wise.
Another example.....Alot says a fast intake is not worth it over a ls6. My results picked up 13rwp with my ported fast over my ported ls6.
Some will say a ewp is not worth it.......my results say different. Especially after I modded it.
Some will bolt-on headers and y pipe and leave that neck down area where it goes into the y......not me.
BTW.....why do I have to baby sit and worry about hurting someone's feelings over a car. Is this Romper room????.....are we really that politically correct?
Thunder it's good that you keep getting faster with every mod. You're sorting it out. Your learning the details.......which is the same way I got here. Not that I started with a ls6 goin 12.4 @ 108.........it was much faster than that 1st time out. That is how I know his car is not running as it should.
LOL....nice try. Here's the problem you have. I'm not the only on that has done it.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-raci...aps-130-a.html
BAM.....and just that easy Anthony is a idiot.
Sure I do **** different than other people. Most do **** like ****. Their results show it. The devil is usually in the details. It's mostly about crossing your T's and dotting your I's. W/O knowing everyone's set-up and actually seeing it alot is hard to say.
I'll give you a example.....my maf is descreened and ported. There are alot of people that says that's wrong. My results say other wise.
Another example.....Alot says a fast intake is not worth it over a ls6. My results picked up 13rwp with my ported fast over my ported ls6.
Some will say a ewp is not worth it.......my results say different. Especially after I modded it.
Some will bolt-on headers and y pipe and leave that neck down area where it goes into the y......not me.
BTW.....why do I have to baby sit and worry about hurting someone's feelings over a car. Is this Romper room????.....are we really that politically correct?
Thunder it's good that you keep getting faster with every mod. You're sorting it out. Your learning the details.......which is the same way I got here. Not that I started with a ls6 goin 12.4 @ 108.........it was much faster than that 1st time out. That is how I know his car is not running as it should.
LOL....nice try. Here's the problem you have. I'm not the only on that has done it.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-raci...aps-130-a.html
BAM.....and just that easy Anthony is a idiot.
Really now, how miraculous that you know this... since smog techs themselves don't know what the new machines are going to be capable of.
I've plugged his numbers in every calculator made and it just doesn't add up. To run the mph you have with a weight of 2900 your hp number is 536, your bolt on ls6 doesn't make that
2900 and 430 whp comes out to 121-122
I'm not sure what you said your car weighed, picked 29xxx as a guess, and I'd imagine it's more than that.
Either way, just because someone's car doesn't run your physics bending mph and et doesn't mean something is wrong with their car like you're so quick to chime in
2900 and 430 whp comes out to 121-122
I'm not sure what you said your car weighed, picked 29xxx as a guess, and I'd imagine it's more than that.
Either way, just because someone's car doesn't run your physics bending mph and et doesn't mean something is wrong with their car like you're so quick to chime in
It's you guys that is solely focused on my current numbers.
Do you think his car should run ls1 times with a ls6 in it? BTW.....where did I say his was ****?.......oh yea that's right I didn't.
Last edited by HioSSilver; Dec 17, 2013 at 05:54 PM.
If Hio ever ran at a decent track you guys would have a heart attack...
I have seen the car many times. Its not "hacked" or " swiss cheesed". In my case sans the trans I could drive it cross country or dd easy. Does have many parts lightened and many of it is reduction in total recipicating and rotational weight. Check it out in person.
I have seen the car many times. Its not "hacked" or " swiss cheesed". In my case sans the trans I could drive it cross country or dd easy. Does have many parts lightened and many of it is reduction in total recipicating and rotational weight. Check it out in person.
I know exactly what I said on the dyno's. I knew the difference was 3.5% because I had been on both. Ricer math is derogatory....and you meant it in that manner. You could have asked how I know the difference between the dyn's are 3.5%.......but instead "ricer math".
Sure I do **** different than other people. Most do **** like ****. Their results show it. The devil is usually in the details. It's mostly about crossing your T's and dotting your I's. W/O knowing everyone's set-up and actually seeing it alot is hard to say.
I'll give you a example.....my maf is descreened and ported. There are alot of people that says that's wrong. My results say other wise.
Another example.....Alot says a fast intake is not worth it over a ls6. My results picked up 13rwp with my ported fast over my ported ls6.
Some will say a ewp is not worth it.......my results say different. Especially after I modded it.
Some will bolt-on headers and y pipe and leave that neck down area where it goes into the y......not me.
BTW.....why do I have to baby sit and worry about hurting someone's feelings over a car. Is this Romper room????.....are we really that politically correct?
Thunder it's good that you keep getting faster with every mod. You're sorting it out. Your learning the details.......which is the same way I got here. Not that I started with a ls6 goin 12.4 @ 108.........it was much faster than that 1st time out. That is how I know his car is not running as it should.
LOL....nice try. Here's the problem you have. I'm not the only on that has done it.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-raci...aps-130-a.html
BAM.....and just that easy Anthony is a idiot.
Sure I do **** different than other people. Most do **** like ****. Their results show it. The devil is usually in the details. It's mostly about crossing your T's and dotting your I's. W/O knowing everyone's set-up and actually seeing it alot is hard to say.
I'll give you a example.....my maf is descreened and ported. There are alot of people that says that's wrong. My results say other wise.
Another example.....Alot says a fast intake is not worth it over a ls6. My results picked up 13rwp with my ported fast over my ported ls6.
Some will say a ewp is not worth it.......my results say different. Especially after I modded it.
Some will bolt-on headers and y pipe and leave that neck down area where it goes into the y......not me.
BTW.....why do I have to baby sit and worry about hurting someone's feelings over a car. Is this Romper room????.....are we really that politically correct?
Thunder it's good that you keep getting faster with every mod. You're sorting it out. Your learning the details.......which is the same way I got here. Not that I started with a ls6 goin 12.4 @ 108.........it was much faster than that 1st time out. That is how I know his car is not running as it should.
LOL....nice try. Here's the problem you have. I'm not the only on that has done it.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-raci...aps-130-a.html
BAM.....and just that easy Anthony is a idiot.
Mine has an 85mm maf with a saxon free flowing screen to smooth airflow. Also has a ported fast. Sure the 12 bolt and auto eat up power but Im still way short so Im open to ideas.
Not saying you have to babysit anyone but if you dont want to help why bother telling everyone how fast your car is and shitting on their results?
If Hio ever ran at a decent track you guys would have a heart attack...
I have seen the car many times. Its not "hacked" or " swiss cheesed". In my case sans the trans I could drive it cross country or dd easy. Does have many parts lightened and many of it is reduction in total recipicating and rotational weight. Check it out in person.
I have seen the car many times. Its not "hacked" or " swiss cheesed". In my case sans the trans I could drive it cross country or dd easy. Does have many parts lightened and many of it is reduction in total recipicating and rotational weight. Check it out in person.
117 is painfully slow compared to his car, my cam only car traps that and he has commented on how shitty my setup is.
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If Hio ever ran at a decent track you guys would have a heart attack...
I have seen the car many times. Its not "hacked" or " swiss cheesed". In my case sans the trans I could drive it cross country or dd easy. Does have many parts lightened and many of it is reduction in total recipicating and rotational weight. Check it out in person.
I have seen the car many times. Its not "hacked" or " swiss cheesed". In my case sans the trans I could drive it cross country or dd easy. Does have many parts lightened and many of it is reduction in total recipicating and rotational weight. Check it out in person.