L33 longblock 243 heads ls2 cam/springs ls6 intake 400hp+ budget build
#26
you would not need the rotating assembly just the pistons. crank and rods are the same from 5.3 to 5.7 ls's. and building a ls1 or ls6 into a 383 is cheaper only by the bore cost, as you would be replacing the entire rotating assembly on either the l33 or the ls1/6 to make it a 383.
#28
I'm really excited to see this. I've been working on swapping an LSx into my 93 RX7 and just recently decided to go 5.3. Last week I picked up an 07 L33 with 67k miles for $550. It came with stock bottom end, complete & stock 853 heads, ls2 cam installed, some cam from texas speed, comp dual valve springs, ported tb, and ls1 intake manifold. It doesn't have accessories and all so I've gotta find all that but I thought it was a great deal.
I know this engine came with the afm/vvt so I've gotta figure out what all to replace besides lifters and valley cover. I figured a set of LS7 lifters would be fine. I also need some pushrods and rockers. Not sure exactly which ones I need. I guess you went with oem?
Also I see you replaced the bearings and all. I was thinking of doing the same thing. It'll never get easier than now since the engines on the stand. Will new oem bearings hold up to alittle track time? I was really wondering if the oem water pump, oil pump, etc is the best to go with too.
As far as the 853 heads, I was thinking of trying to find some 243's or 799's but I might just go ahead and port these and use them. Not really sure yet. Trying to do everything on a budget to build a car that I can drive daily and also hit the track once in awhile without having to trailer the car to and from the track. I wanna be able to drive to and from the track, meets, and possibly rallies.
I'm new to the LS platform and some input from someone with as much experience as you would truly be appreciated.
I know this engine came with the afm/vvt so I've gotta figure out what all to replace besides lifters and valley cover. I figured a set of LS7 lifters would be fine. I also need some pushrods and rockers. Not sure exactly which ones I need. I guess you went with oem?
Also I see you replaced the bearings and all. I was thinking of doing the same thing. It'll never get easier than now since the engines on the stand. Will new oem bearings hold up to alittle track time? I was really wondering if the oem water pump, oil pump, etc is the best to go with too.
As far as the 853 heads, I was thinking of trying to find some 243's or 799's but I might just go ahead and port these and use them. Not really sure yet. Trying to do everything on a budget to build a car that I can drive daily and also hit the track once in awhile without having to trailer the car to and from the track. I wanna be able to drive to and from the track, meets, and possibly rallies.
I'm new to the LS platform and some input from someone with as much experience as you would truly be appreciated.
#30
853 was used on 99-00 LS1 engines.
they have a 66.67 cc combustion chamber (10.1 CR), 200cc intake runners, and 70cc (round) exhaust ports.
The 243/799 head is the LS6/LS2/L33 head.
It has a smaller 64.45cc chamber for more compression (10.5 CR on LS6), 210cc intake runners, and 75cc D-shaped exhaust ports.
both came with 2.00" intake valves, and 1.55" exhaust valves.
most will tell you stock 243's are 20whp bolt ons over stock 853's. but I agree with exidous, 853's aren't terrible.
they have a 66.67 cc combustion chamber (10.1 CR), 200cc intake runners, and 70cc (round) exhaust ports.
The 243/799 head is the LS6/LS2/L33 head.
It has a smaller 64.45cc chamber for more compression (10.5 CR on LS6), 210cc intake runners, and 75cc D-shaped exhaust ports.
both came with 2.00" intake valves, and 1.55" exhaust valves.
most will tell you stock 243's are 20whp bolt ons over stock 853's. but I agree with exidous, 853's aren't terrible.
#31
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I think they are 205 on the intake but with VERY minor porting can be made to be acceptable. Smoothing around the valve seat and the rocker bolt bump will make a good difference.
I was looking at my 241's and it's VERY obvious why they are SO much better ported. They look like they were very lazily assembled at the factory. Poor transition at the seat and all sorts of flashing and imperfections.
I was looking at my 241's and it's VERY obvious why they are SO much better ported. They look like they were very lazily assembled at the factory. Poor transition at the seat and all sorts of flashing and imperfections.
#32
If I find some better 243's or 799's for a steal I definitely won't pass them up but for now I'm most likely gonna stick with the 853's and do some port work. I need to do some research and figure out which push rods to use and also see what lifter possibilities I've got. For now I'll most likely stick with the LS2 cam so I'm guessing some LS2 pushrods and lifters would suit the engine fine. I need to figure out which Texas Speed cam I've got and sell it to help fund the other parts.
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2006 L33 stock 799 heads good?
I know the heads is supposed to be better then the LM7 and the cam is bigger with more compression. But I want to do the Ls2 cam with the LS6 intake just wondering if my heads are good enough
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OP sounds like you got a deal and a fun car with that power to weight ratio, we recently finished up a h/c LS6 in a 1700lb Lotus 7 and that car was a beast!