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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 06:16 PM
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Alright so the low down on my 370ci build is coming to a halt,here is the parts list so far.

LQ4 bored .030 over
PRC 5.3L STG 2.5
Patriot Gold .660 springs
FAST 102mm intake
Nick Williams 102mm TB
LS2 fuel rails
bosch 42# injectors
Futral F14 High lift cam
LS7 lifters
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SCAT I beam 6.125 rods
Billet Double roller timing chain
LS6 ported oil pump

Now all i'm looking for is pistons and rings, though my budget is coming to a close end, I'm looking for 4.030 pistons with the obvious 6.125 rod length in the 300-500 price range. i've been looking a speed pros but i haven't found a vendor that sells them for LS motors in the configuration i need. any thoughts on what would be a good option for pistons for my build?
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 07:43 PM
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Well i'm running a 370 LQ9 bored .030 over with PRC stage 2.5/5.3 heads, and a cam very similar to yours. I'm running 4.030 Diamond pistons along with TMS Moly rings. It works great for me
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may i ask how much did your piston setup set you back and what did your car dyno at?
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Probe makes pistons that are in the 400 range that are decent. They are 2618 alloy. Their 4032 forging is like 280-300. They are cheap but a step up over stock pistons.

Wiseco 2618 forging pistons and rings can be had for about 675 and Mahle 4032 pistons and rings for about 650.

2618 is better for power adders and 4032 better for NA.
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Probe makes pistons that are in the 400 range that are decent. They are 2618 alloy. Their 4032 forging is like 280-300. They are cheap but a step up over stock pistons.

Wiseco 2618 forging pistons and rings can be had for about 675 and Mahle 4032 pistons and rings for about 650.

2618 is better for power adders and 4032 better for NA.
Awesome info! it looks like i'll be ordering a set of these probe pistons and seeing how they do, thanks!!!
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Awesome info! it looks like i'll be ordering a set of these probe pistons and seeing how they do, thanks!!!
QUESTION: Have you calculated your Static Compression Ratio for those pistons and your Dynamic Compression Ratio, since you have already bought the cam ?
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QUESTION: Have you calculated your Static Compression Ratio for those pistons and your Dynamic Compression Ratio, since you have already bought the cam ?
I was using a calculator i found online but i must have entered a number because i got a whack *** compression ratio of 16:1 which would be utterly insane
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I was using a calculator i found online but i must have entered a number because i got a whack *** compression ratio of 16:1 which would be utterly insane
Yes double check, 16:1 would be way high lol
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Awesome info! it looks like i'll be ordering a set of these probe pistons and seeing how they do, thanks!!!
Never really got a really acurate number since it was a brand new motor (no break in time) and was done on a really stingy Mustang dyno...the owner himself said they call it the "hearbreake dyno" at the shop lol. Anyways, it laid down 420 rwhp that day n/a. It should easily be 450 rwhp + on a Dynojet dyno...plus being totally broke in now too
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Alright so it's come down to the cam as instead of the off the self F14 cam they spec'd one for my build that is rather radical for me.

246/252 .612/.620 112+4 LSA

Now I'm positive I'll need valve reliefs to keep my valvetrain in check. Though what would recommend for the relief depth with the PRC heads with a 62cc and a .051 gasket?
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Old Feb 17, 2014 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Z28Dave
Alright so it's come down to the cam as instead of the off the self F14 cam they spec'd one for my build that is rather radical for me.

246/252 .612/.620 112+4 LSA

Now I'm positive I'll need valve reliefs to keep my valvetrain in check. Though what would recommend for the relief depth with the PRC heads with a 62cc and a .051 gasket?
The Probe pistons are going to have valve reliefs already. They're a good size too, so I don't think you have to worry about it. They do state the depths of the reliefs though if you want to satisfy your curiosity.
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I would ditch the Patriot springs and go for like BTRs. I'm partial to Wiseco pistons in my setups.
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I would ditch the Patriot springs and go for like BTRs. I'm partial to Wiseco pistons in my setups.
Pondering why I should change to BTR's when the ones i have now which are pretty much new. I might have to start looking for another piston option as i call probe and they were out of 4.030 pistons in the 6.125 rod length
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Patriot springs are not reliable. They loose a lot of pressure quickly, basically not that good, do a search on valve float.
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We have quite a few piston selections available also and can get as technical or as layman as you wish!

Let us know and we can set you up.
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
Patriot springs are not reliable. They loose a lot of pressure quickly, basically not that good, do a search on valve float.
I have heard some decent reviews about the PG xtremes 660s so i'll run them until i notice valve float and then i'll swap them out for the BTRs

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We have quite a few piston selections available also and can get as technical or as layman as you wish!

Let us know and we can set you up.
I'll shoot you guys a call since my hunt for pistons is slowing down gradually and i need to make a purchase with the quickness.
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PAC 1905s would be my choice. BTR actually sells the kit for them. You can get either the kit or just the springs from Brian: http://www.briantooleyracing.com/650...retainers.html

And check here for Probe (4.030" for 3.622" stroke and 6.125" rods with 3cc valve reliefs): http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...oducts_id=4275
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We will await your call.

For this setup we would really recommend the Mahle Power Pak series as we have found them extremely reliable and the ring set is nice too. They are double coated as well. A few piston manufacturers dont offer this standard and if they do it is only a skirt coating (normally).

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I'm running Wiseco in my 370 and they are really nice.
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I'm running Wiseco in my 370 and they are really nice.
yeah i'm breaking down and buying wisecos, going to have to pay the extra buck and do it right.
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