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Old 05-12-2004, 10:53 AM
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I hear guys talking about going with a large cam and say that it may not be streetable. What makes it not streetable? I personaly wouldnt mind driving around with a huge lopey cam through some loud deep exhaust Just kinda currious.
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Stalling, surging, no low end power, etc.
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totally depends on the person and what you are willing to put up with really.

some people don't care if their car dies every now and then at a stoplight or something or has to have a high idle and surges sometimes, others get pissed.
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Originally Posted by z98
Stalling, surging, no low end power, etc.
I did see a local guy that had a HUGE cam... I mean when this car was at idle, the headlights would dim, and it would sound like it was fixing to die. It never did, but it sounded like an all out race car. So basically thats all that makes a car streetable or not streetable?
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Originally Posted by z98
Stalling, surging, no low end power, etc.

Just like he said...alot of folks for example put a 110lsa cam in a auto car...sure you can tune it, but it sucks for daily driving reason...or like a big loose torque convertor...or 4.30 gears in a auto car...
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Originally Posted by SilverGhost
totally depends on the person and what you are willing to put up with really.

some people don't care if their car dies every now and then at a stoplight or something or has to have a high idle and surges sometimes, others get pissed.
Yeah I guess its diffrent strokes for diffrent folks. I know I sure wouldnt want a car that dies at stoplights. I wouldnt mind a little surging, but to the point where it would almost die...
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alot of people would consider mine unstreetable, but i drive it 3 days a week. the low gears compensate for any low end power loss from a huge cam.
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What makes car NOT streetable? From what I've see around here, only the opinion of OTHERS...since the owner will NEVER, under any circumstance, admit that the car should be on the back of a trailor (or that it IS!)
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I'm driving around with a 110LSA 106ICL cam in my car right now and the idle isn't what gets me... it is the bucking and farting the car does when you try to ease around at 1300 to 1600rpm in gear, that is driving me crazy. I've had several big cams with 112lsa's and they were much nicer to drive than this thing is. Btw, it has never stalled or surged while idling, it's just the low speed driving manners of it that gets to me. I drove it 175 miles round trip on the interstate yesterday at 80+mph and couldn't tell the difference between it and a stock cam..but as soon as I got off the interstate and into town... I'm pulling the SOB out tonight.
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Originally Posted by gomer
I'm driving around with a 110LSA 106ICL cam in my car right now and the idle isn't what gets me... it is the bucking and farting the car does when you try to ease around at 1300 to 1600rpm in gear, that is driving me crazy. I've had several big cams with 112lsa's and they were much nicer to drive than this thing is. Btw, it has never stalled or surged while idling, it's just the low speed driving manners of it that gets to me. I drove it 175 miles round trip on the interstate yesterday at 80+mph and couldn't tell the difference between it and a stock cam..but as soon as I got off the interstate and into town... I'm pulling the SOB out tonight.
Is that teh Fm13 you are referring to on a 110
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Yea that would probably get me too since i will have to drive it at lower rpm in town. The bucking anf farting i could not handel as a car that see's more that 10-15 miles a week road time.
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Ohymyneck, You the same guy from Midwest City, OK? If so I saw ya yesterday on Air Depot. You need to make it to the ws6zxr board sometime.
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Colonel is right. There are sooo many people on here that say their setup is streetable and you know it's total bs. Like people with huge cams, (and my favorite) Yank TP4400 convertors, non-overdrive trannies, etc; it's like who are you trying to kid? I would say the best way to find out if ride or drive other people's cars with cam's in them and then go from there.
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Originally Posted by HumpinSS
Is that teh Fm13 you are referring to on a 110
No, the FM13 I have is on a 112... the cam on a 110LSA that's in there now is an "experimental" cam I was trying for someone.
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I don't know bout LS1's, but on the '67 the cam gets on my nerves once in a while. I don't really daily drive it, maybe once or twice every two weeks, but the idle gets old as hell. I basically have to put it in neutral at most stoplights to avoid stalling/creeping in gear. Once I get over 3k or so, it's great, it's just the getting there part that sucks. A larger 'Vertor would help, but that adds to the un-drivability as well. I guess you have to pick and choose your battles. You want a REALLY fast street car, deal with the downsides. You want a "somewhat" fast street car, get good at the excuses. That's just how it goes.
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Gomer--Was there any tuning done with that camshaft you're referring to?
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Originally Posted by Linear Velocity
Colonel is right. There are sooo many people on here that say their setup is streetable and you know it's total bs. Like people with huge cams, (and my favorite) Yank TP4400 convertors, non-overdrive trannies, etc; it's like who are you trying to kid? I would say the best way to find out if ride or drive other people's cars with cam's in them and then go from there.
Hey I take offense to that, I have a th350 4400 setup it's very streetable, at the track...
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Originally Posted by DenzSS
Gomer--Was there any tuning done with that camshaft you're referring to?
Yes, I had the previous edit tune from my FM13 cam in it. Like I said, it never surged or went dead... just suffered in low speed driving. But in my experience with the 15 or so cams I've had in the car in the past year or so.. anything over 226* on a 112 or 110 isn't going to drive very well at 1300rpms. From 2,000rpm on up they are fine. If you have a stall or 4.10 gears you'll not notice it as much. IMHO a "big" cam shouldn't be compared to a stock cams low speed manners... big cams are optimized for high rpm, stock cams are optimized for low engine speed smoothness.
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Originally Posted by Ohmyneck
I hear guys talking about going with a large cam and say that it may not be streetable. What makes it not streetable? I personaly wouldnt mind driving around with a huge lopey cam through some loud deep exhaust Just kinda currious.
For me, when it's broken
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Is my car streetable? Yes.

Would I want to drive it every day to work? No.

Is it fun as heck? Oh yeah.

Is it easy to drive? No. It's not comfortable (race seats, 6-point rollbar). The transmission is funky (pro-shifted - WOT is awesome, but partial throttle is a bit "odd"). The rear end is funky (spooled). Manual rack, skinnies 100% of the time (corners take some strategy). Suspension is stiff yet bouncy (Hal's and things like the Madman torque arm). Does it chuggle at low RPM? Not really, with 4.56 gears, it's not hard to find 2000 RPM.

Do I love it? Oh yeah.

Do I trailer it to the track? Yes, because at any moment, I could break something. Seen it happen too many times.

So is it streetable? Yes, but not every day.



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