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Old Feb 18, 2014 | 09:24 PM
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OK, what's the magic trick to getting these things off? I've soaked them in PB blaster once or twice a day for a week. Applied heat to the bolt head and the pedestal. I tried using an electric impact and a hand impact socket. These tiny little bolts just won't budge! Are they a left hand thread? Is there some special solvent?

Or do I have to drill out all 16 bolts?
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Old Feb 18, 2014 | 09:37 PM
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They should never be that tight. Sounds like somebody used red loctite, on the bolt threads. I'd pull the heads off the block to avoid getting any metal shavings down in the engine, if you're going to drill then out.
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You can't drill them out!


Get a ratchet and slip a 2 ft pipe over the handle and if that doesn't loosen it then it will break the bolt..

Then remove the heads if you break a bolt!
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 03:32 AM
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You can't drill them out!


Get a ratchet and slip a 2 ft pipe over the handle and if that doesn't loosen it then it will break the bolt..

Then remove the heads if you break a bolt!
I would try heating it up a little first too
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 04:26 AM
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Make sure you have a good quality 6 point socket. Have they ever been off before? Mine were quite stuck when I first removed the stock bolts.

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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 07:28 AM
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they'll be snug, but once the snap free they should come out easily.
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 09:03 AM
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Applying enough torque isn't the issue. Those little 8mm bolts are rounding off if I put too much torque on them. That's why I tried the hand impact tool; that usually shocks things loose.

I guess I'll have to pull the heads and cut them off. What a pain.
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 09:05 AM
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Weird. Mine came off without much trouble. I have an extra set of GM factory rockers and bolts if you need them.
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 09:27 AM
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Try this..........take a punch and hammer and WHACK each bolt HARD on the very top a few times then try removing them. This will disturb the thread bond and they should come loose. You should also ALWAYS do this to the head bolts before you try to loosen them or its possible the threads in the block will fail when you go to reassemble the heads to the block.
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 09:28 AM
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as posted above sounds like someone used strong loctite on them

try heating them again but then smack them moderately with a hammer to help break the seal
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 09:34 AM
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I thought these were a simple bolt on job. But I wanted to check to make sure there's no magical technique - like it's a laft hand thread, or some hidden locking device. I'v never had a Lock-Tite work this well.

I'v applied heat to the bolt head and the rocker pedestal.

My hand impact tool will usually break anything free. Jut put a little tension on it and whack it with a big hammer. That usually breaks things free in a coupple of hits.
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 09:48 AM
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it is very surprising how tight they feel even when nothing is on them, they make me nervous every time I go to take them off


GM uses some serious thread lock on the bolts for 4l60e bellhousings that my dad's big badass snap on impact gun will not break loose, but heating them with a propane torch and giving them a few good wacks with a hammer will break the seal loose so the impact will zip them right out.
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 10:04 AM
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If you read GM's instructions for head removal they want you to whack each head bolt with a punch and hammer to release the threads. Before you pull the heads try a couple good whacks on each rocker bolt, can't loose anything at this point.

Heat may help but it can weaken the bolts if heated too much.

You could try starting the engine and getting it warmed too.
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 10:30 AM
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Sounds like someone used more than red loctite.. More like jb weld!

The heat should melt and let the bolt come loose!
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Originally Posted by RockinWs6
Heat may help but it can weaken the bolts if heated too much.
I would replace them once removed anyway, especially if the heads are even becoming remotely rounded
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by RockinWs6
If you read GM's instructions for head removal they want you to whack each head bolt with a punch and hammer to release the threads. Before you pull the heads try a couple good whacks on each rocker bolt, can't loose anything at this point.

Heat may help but it can weaken the bolts if heated too much.

You could try starting the engine and getting it warmed too.
I'll give that a try tonight. Can't hurt anything at this point

I can't start the engine, it's on a stand with a lot of missing bits.

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Sounds like someone used more than red loctite.. More like jb weld!

The heat should melt and let the bolt come loose!
I think you might be right! Red lock-tite doesn't usually hold this well, and the heat I applied should have loosened it.

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I would replace them once removed anyway, especially if the heads are even becoming remotely rounded
Yeah,I have new ones that came with the trunion kit. Money spent on quality fasteners is never wasted.
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That is weird, I just used a 3/8 rachet and broke them lose no issue.
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I worked on a piece of machinery years ago that had a complicated cog belt drive system. The belt broke, someone used some type of locker on all the parts that go together to make this thing work. TOOK ME OVER 30 HRS to disassemble what should have been a 4 hr job at best. The company I was doing the work for actually thought I was trying screw them on labor and sent one of their guys to "help things along" he gave up and admitted they changed it once and used some type of military locker.
I heated and pulled and made pullers and special tools, One job I'll never forget.
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 03:09 PM
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I had same problem with some of mine to where they broke my socket
& stripped the Bolt head. Make sure there is no spring pressure on the
Rocker. I heated up the base of the rocker bolt where it goes into
The head. Also hit the head of the bolt like others had mentioned.
The head on one of mine stripped out so I V- notched a medium size
Vice grip & put a 10" crescent on the bottom of the vice grip to keep
It from twisting. It finally came out. Good luck
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Originally Posted by .boB
I thought these were a simple bolt on job. But I wanted to check to make sure there's no magical technique - like it's a laft hand thread, or some hidden locking device. I'v never had a Lock-Tite work this well.

I'v applied heat to the bolt head and the rocker pedestal.

My hand impact tool will usually break anything free. Jut put a little tension on it and whack it with a big hammer. That usually breaks things free in a coupple of hits.
Get yer *** back in the kitchen and let your wife take care of it for you when she gets home from work.
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