New LS7 Lifters have me concerned?
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New LS7 Lifters have me concerned?
I have question about a new set of LS7 lifters I bought and hopefully someone has some experienced input. After visually inspecting the lifters, I rolled the tips with my finger which is when I noticed something odd. After rolling maybe 2 revolutions, I noticed a hitch or bind slightly. They don't stop completely, just seem to catch and or are not real smooth. There is really no consistency to when they catch. I have not checked them all, and not all the ones I have checked did it. These are brand new GM lifters. Should I be concerned, or is this normal. The seller has a lot of experience selling these, and has not had anyone else mention this. He is offering to exchange them, but I don't want to go through that if I don't have to. None of my 90k mile stock LS1 lifters do this, I checked them all.
Any input? Thanks
Any input? Thanks
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Yeah that's what he has offered. Just don't know if they are truly bad or I'm just being too fussy about it. Just doesn't seem normal to me and was trying to see if anyone else has experienced it. Maybe they're fine, maybe not, but unless there was another bad batch, it's pretty scary to think that out of 16 there could possibly be 4 or so bad... 25%, not good!
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That's what I was thinking, just wasn't sure. Thanks
That's exactly what my worry was, a stupid $10 lifter taking out my cam or worse. Only experience I have with these lifters is what I've read.
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Send them back for new ones.
I just installed some new u joints in a driveshaft for my 12 bolt swap. After the rear one was installed, I rotated the outer two caps, and one of them had a little hang up just like youre describing. I took the cap off, cleaned off the grease and sure enough, there were two tiny nicks in the joint surface.
When it comes to bearings and rollers, theres no such thing as too perfect. Its either good or its bad, there is no happy medium, because anything less than perfect WILL be premature failure.
I just installed some new u joints in a driveshaft for my 12 bolt swap. After the rear one was installed, I rotated the outer two caps, and one of them had a little hang up just like youre describing. I took the cap off, cleaned off the grease and sure enough, there were two tiny nicks in the joint surface.
When it comes to bearings and rollers, theres no such thing as too perfect. Its either good or its bad, there is no happy medium, because anything less than perfect WILL be premature failure.
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I just did a quick roll on all 16 lifters and so far have found 3 that noticeably hitched and one that sort of just dragged. One of them took about 8-10 turns to get it to hitch. I will roll them all again before I send the bad ones back. Contemplating sending them all back and starting over. Not very promising! Thats a pretty bad percentage to be bad, or at the least questionable.
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GM does oil the lifters before packing them up to prevent rust when they are sitting on a shelf, just like a cam would come from comp. You don't just throw parts in a motor, you must clean them first to get all of that packing oil off and then reoil them. I would try this first.
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I've read that GM had 2 suppliers of their DOD lifters and one supplier was know to have faulty product. I truly wonder if GM is having this same problem with the regular (LS7) lifters too. When people never have problems they got the good supplier. Makes you wonder.
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GM does oil the lifters before packing them up to prevent rust when they are sitting on a shelf, just like a cam would come from comp. You don't just throw parts in a motor, you must clean them first to get all of that packing oil off and then reoil them. I would try this first.
Any idea what the preferred method is? I'm thinking soaking them in mineral spirits or something like that would work. Maybe spraying them with brake cleaner? Should I blow them out with air after? I know there are a lot of varying opinions on soaking them in oil, but I would probably do that after cleaning.
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
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I understand what you are saying, and was going to try this but was afraid if I did the seller might not accept them back. I had a conversation with him today and he is on board with me trying this or just sending them back, either way. If they still do it after I clean them, then he will exchange them with no problems. I don't mind trying this and it is a no lose situation. Actually I'm kind of interested in what the result will be.
Any idea what the preferred method is? I'm thinking soaking them in mineral spirits or something like that would work. Maybe spraying them with brake cleaner? Should I blow them out with air after? I know there are a lot of varying opinions on soaking them in oil, but I would probably do that after cleaning.
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
Any idea what the preferred method is? I'm thinking soaking them in mineral spirits or something like that would work. Maybe spraying them with brake cleaner? Should I blow them out with air after? I know there are a lot of varying opinions on soaking them in oil, but I would probably do that after cleaning.
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
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I just wanted to update this as to what I found. I ended up soaking the lifters in mineral spirits overnight, blew dry, and let stand to completely dry out. I then sprayed them down with WD40, concentrating on the roller. These things now roll perfectly smooth, no hitching at all, and they all have the same roller action. You wouldn't believe the amount of debris left behind in my cleaning container. Makes you realize how important it is to clean these things before installation.
They are now sealed up waiting for installation. Thanks for the input!
They are now sealed up waiting for installation. Thanks for the input!