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Old May 5, 2014 | 01:23 PM
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Default "eBay" Head Studs "How To" Video - Pro Comp - Alper

Got a "How To" video up of torquing down LSx heads with cheap "eBay" or Pro Comp head studs ($80). The torque sequence would apply to all head bolts or studs. The torque amount in this video is just my recommendation for these cheap studs. These studs dont usually come with instructions and leave people wondering how far to torque them. With my first set, I torqued them to ARP specs at 80ft lbs and learned that was a mistake. It streched a few of them. So I hope this helps someone out and makes the proecess a little smoother.

I welcome all of your feedback and experiences. With your added input this thread will be even more helpful to others trying out these studs.

We dont needd a debate here on which is better ebay studs vs ARP. That has already happened enough on other threads.

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The final amount of torque is a personal preference since the studs come with no instructions. I chose a final torque of 70ft lbs. Its a good idea to reach that amount in three even steps.
I chose:
-1st pass at 30 ft lbs
-2nd pass at 50 ft lbs
-Final pass at 70 ft lbs

If looking to purchase these head studs, Coloradospeed is a sponsor here that provides them:
http://www.coloradospeed.com/colorad...6-p-29216.html



Attachment below has the torque sequence.
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Old May 5, 2014 | 01:42 PM
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Thank you, nice how to video! Bookmarking this bad boy, hate TTY factory bolts, always break out into a cold sweat when removing them and installing them.
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Originally Posted by 03Sssnake
Thank you, nice how to video! Bookmarking this bad boy, hate TTY factory bolts, always break out into a cold sweat when removing them and installing them.
Thank you 03Sssnake! yea, dealing with those TTY bolts is not fun.
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Post the torque specs in the first post. I'm curious. I myself run ARP's (got em free) but have no issue at all with the pro-comps.
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Old May 5, 2014 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by dr_whigham
Post the torque specs in the first post. I'm curious.
Good idea. Done!
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The way I did it was a three step process as well, but I used ARP torque lube. It seems to work better than oil IMO. Also, after the third pass I let them sit for 30 minutes, then double check the torque @ 70 ft lbs. The idea behind this is that if the stud is going to stretch it gives it time to do so before you final check them.
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Old May 5, 2014 | 07:08 PM
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Those are pretty much the torque specs that were recommended on a different thread in which people were giving insight on what torque sequence was used. The specs you posted are the same I was planning to use. Thanks for the vid!!!
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Great feedback so far! Keep it up. I've added a diagram of the torque sequence to the first post. Thought that'd come in handy.
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Same specs I used a few months ago with them. Coloradospeed also sells them for those wanting to help out a sponsor.
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Originally Posted by sick_0n3
Same specs I used a few months ago with them. Coloradospeed also sells them for those wanting to help out a sponsor.
Thanks for the feedback and pointing out the sponsor. Do you have a link or a way to point towards that company so that I can post it in the first post? I dont know how to contact the sponsors here without googling their name and calling them. I'll post their name there now.
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Hmm I never really considered using these bolts. I am glad I came across this thread. Thanks for the post OP!
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http://www.coloradospeed.com/colorad...6-p-29216.html

Originally Posted by AGearHead4Life
Thanks for the feedback and pointing out the sponsor. Do you have a link or a way to point towards that company so that I can post it in the first post? I dont know how to contact the sponsors here without googling their name and calling them. I'll post their name there now.
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Thank you for the referral. We actually tested these on several cars, the first one being a boosted LS1 346 back in 2007. These studs work well so we decided to start selling them this year. We have a GP going, 75 bucks shipped with the 48 US states with a limited supply. Please go to the GP thread.

We have them for the Gen III and Gen IV at the same price and our own 7.4 pushrods for $60.

I think these are a great alternative even if you are running N/A. Just pay 30 bucks more over stock GM torque to yield head bolts. Why not?

I greatly appreciate the poster putting up the video and torque specs.

Thanks!

p.s. and remember "tight is tight".

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Old May 7, 2014 | 05:24 PM
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Quick question. After torquing the smaller nuts to 22 along the intake ports, do the studs sit below the top of the nut or protrude out? I just installed a set of these and it seems like the studs are a bit short as they are sitting below the nut face.
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Old May 7, 2014 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mangler
Quick question. After torquing the smaller nuts to 22 along the intake ports, do the studs sit below the top of the nut or protrude out? I just installed a set of these and it seems like the studs are a bit short as they are sitting below the nut face.
Which heads are you running. If it's thicker than stock then yeah. I know on the ETP heads I had to pull the studs out a little. I felt a little uncomfortable doing that. The ETP heads were even thicker than the AFRs.
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Factory 862 heads, factory 3 layer MLS gasket.
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Old May 8, 2014 | 01:23 PM
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Wish I would have seen this last week.. LOL

I just put a set of the ProComps on my LS1 and torqued them to 80 with no issues. Not having any instructions with the ProComp studs I went with ARP specs. I stumbled on this thread by accident. Went 40/60/80, which was about 1/4 turn each step, similar to the TTY bolts.

AFR 210 heads with MLS head gaskets. Hope it helps.
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Thank you sick_0n3! First post has been updated with it.
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Originally Posted by coSPEED
Thank you for the referral. We actually tested these on several cars, the first one being a boosted LS1 346 back in 2007. These studs work well so we decided to start selling them this year. We have a GP going, 75 bucks shipped with the 48 US states with a limited supply. Please go to the GP thread.

We have them for the Gen III and Gen IV at the same price and our own 7.4 pushrods for $60.

I think these are a great alternative even if you are running N/A. Just pay 30 bucks more over stock GM torque to yield head bolts. Why not?

I greatly appreciate the poster putting up the video and torque specs.

Thanks!

p.s. and remember "tight is tight".
Great info! Thanks for sharing and joining the conversation!
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Originally Posted by mangler
Quick question. After torquing the smaller nuts to 22 along the intake ports, do the studs sit below the top of the nut or protrude out? I just installed a set of these and it seems like the studs are a bit short as they are sitting below the nut face.
I remember noticing this also. Its real close. I think if it was slightly counter sunk it wouldn't be an issue.
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