Just bought tsp 228R, have questions
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ya there are actually only a few "cam grinders" in the country, comp, cam motion, bullet, lunati and crane. the vendors all just tll the grinder what to cut and have it made. some people like EPS, Ed curtis Alan Futral etc have designed their own custom lobes that can only be gotten by going through them but they are still ground by the above. other vendors just pick "catalog" lobes out from the companies and grind them based on those
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in theory theres nothing wrong with used springs. BTR makes a nice kit also. However you can never be sure if they are in fact what they say they are. springs wear out so if you can verify they are good and in fact have only 6 k on them then cool if not then skip out.
also for that cam duals really aren't needed. They will put much more stress on the valvetrain and in reality dont offer much protection over singles. If a single breaks then the valve has the potential to smash into the piston if the rest of the spring cant "catch" it. If a dual breaks then the inner spring may not break and may help, but anyone who thinks that tiny inner spring is going to control the valve and stop it from smacking into the piston at a high rpm is nuts.
Personally for this cam if you get the btr springs for a steal then awesome if not I would run a good beehive like a pac 1518 or my personal choice psi 1511 and roll with it
also for that cam duals really aren't needed. They will put much more stress on the valvetrain and in reality dont offer much protection over singles. If a single breaks then the valve has the potential to smash into the piston if the rest of the spring cant "catch" it. If a dual breaks then the inner spring may not break and may help, but anyone who thinks that tiny inner spring is going to control the valve and stop it from smacking into the piston at a high rpm is nuts.
Personally for this cam if you get the btr springs for a steal then awesome if not I would run a good beehive like a pac 1518 or my personal choice psi 1511 and roll with it
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in theory theres nothing wrong with used springs. BTR makes a nice kit also. However you can never be sure if they are in fact what they say they are. springs wear out so if you can verify they are good and in fact have only 6 k on them then cool if not then skip out. also for that cam duals really aren't needed. They will put much more stress on the valvetrain and in reality dont offer much protection over singles. If a single breaks then the valve has the potential to smash into the piston if the rest of the spring cant "catch" it. If a dual breaks then the inner spring may not break and may help, but anyone who thinks that tiny inner spring is going to control the valve and stop it from smacking into the piston at a high rpm is nuts. Personally for this cam if you get the btr springs for a steal then awesome if not I would run a good beehive like a pac 1518 or my personal choice psi 1511 and roll with it
Thank you, I plan on running a beehive spring, just saw these BTR springs pop up and figured I'd get some input .
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You'll probably benefit from and barely notice a little more converter.....
3600+ = good times. If I were making the decision today I'd probably go with a SS4000.
I planned on going with a beehive spring also, but Geoff@EPS talked me out of it based on his personal experience. Also a BTR dual spring will offer you some insurance over a single beehive spring.
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3600+ = good times. If I were making the decision today I'd probably go with a SS4000.
I planned on going with a beehive spring also, but Geoff@EPS talked me out of it based on his personal experience. Also a BTR dual spring will offer you some insurance over a single beehive spring.
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to give you an example, I did that same cam and all the parts you mentioned in my 99 camaro. I didnt change heads or intake, just cam..
I drove it around for 2 weeks before I got my tune. It honestly ran great and hardly had any driveability issues, I didnt even throw a CEL light. Just make sure youd dont get on it at all. Just to be safe
I drove it around for 2 weeks before I got my tune. It honestly ran great and hardly had any driveability issues, I didnt even throw a CEL light. Just make sure youd dont get on it at all. Just to be safe
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When trying to save money, it's not always smart to buy used. Have the springs pressure tested before buying them. If they check out alright, you are probably safe to run them but they may only have another 10k miles left on them.
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Bumping up my old thread, springs, oil pump, and balancer bolt are on the way. I have push rods and timing chain already. Should be putting this can in soon.
Can any one recommend a place to get extra retainer locks? From the write up I'm follow it says to get some JIC.
Can any one recommend a place to get extra retainer locks? From the write up I'm follow it says to get some JIC.
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Bumping up my old thread, springs, oil pump, and balancer bolt are on the way. I have push rods and timing chain already. Should be putting this can in soon.
Can any one recommend a place to get extra retainer locks? From the write up I'm follow it says to get some JIC.
Can any one recommend a place to get extra retainer locks? From the write up I'm follow it says to get some JIC.
They're always good to have but I've never needed one if you use a good spring removal tool and a pen magnet to "grab" them it all should be fine. When reinstalling coat them in a little whit lithium grease to help hold them in place
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Enjoy the camshaft! If you need a tune give us a call, we mail order tune these setups all the time!!
As far as springs are concerned we offer a single spring with better pressures than the 1218 for very reasonable $$tgay being said the prc .650" is hard to beat! I always like doubles.
We have some locks u can have. Just tell us!
As far as springs are concerned we offer a single spring with better pressures than the 1218 for very reasonable $$tgay being said the prc .650" is hard to beat! I always like doubles.
We have some locks u can have. Just tell us!
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Enjoy the camshaft! If you need a tune give us a call, we mail order tune these setups all the time!! As far as springs are concerned we offer a single spring with better pressures than the 1218 for very reasonable $$tgay being said the prc .650" is hard to beat! I always like doubles. We have some locks u can have. Just tell us!
I definitely will hit you up for a tune! Maybe we can do an email tune since I have HPtuners.
I'm looking at ls1howto.com and they said have some spare locks handy, I figured it never hurts to be prepared! If I could get a few spare ones from you that would be awesome.
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I dont think you're going to find any at a local part store. You could probably order some from TSP or the like. If you have a local ls shop near you they probably have a bunch of sock ones laying around. They're always good to have but I've never needed one if you use a good spring removal tool and a pen magnet to "grab" them it all should be fine. When reinstalling coat them in a little whit lithium grease to help hold them in place
Cool thx for the info!
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I've always used the dowel rods. I used to get them at Michaels for under a dollar each. I doubt it's changed much.
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Thanks,
For removing the balancer pulley bolt, if I have a big air compressor and impact gun, do I have to remove the starter and stick a screwdriver threw the flywheel to stop it from spinning?
I'm just trying to see exactly what I need and have to do. so when I start tearing into it, I don't run Into any surprises.
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For removing the balancer pulley bolt, if I have a big air compressor and impact gun, do I have to remove the starter and stick a screwdriver threw the flywheel to stop it from spinning?
I'm just trying to see exactly what I need and have to do. so when I start tearing into it, I don't run Into any surprises.
For removing the balancer pulley bolt, if I have a big air compressor and impact gun, do I have to remove the starter and stick a screwdriver threw the flywheel to stop it from spinning?
I'm just trying to see exactly what I need and have to do. so when I start tearing into it, I don't run Into any surprises.
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