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Old May 19, 2004 | 11:06 AM
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I was comparing cam package prices with Texas Speed & Performance, and Thunder Racing. Texas Speed's prices are a lot cheaper, and seem to come with better parts.

Pack 1.Your choice of TSP custom-grind camshaft, Comp Cams 26918-16 valve springs good to .600" lift, Texas Speed & Performance hardened pushrods $559.99


Pack 2.Your choice of TSP camshaft, Manley valve springs good to .600" lift, Manley titanium retainers, Texas Speed & Performance hardened pushrods $599.99


Pack 3.Your choice of TSP camshaft, Manley valve springs good to .600" lift, Manley titanium retainers, Texas Speed & Performance hardened pushrods $659.99


Pack 4.Texas Speed TSP Camshaft, Crane Double Valve Springs, Titanium Retainers, Hardened Spring Seats, GM Valve Seals, Texas Speed & Performance Hardened Pushrods $669.99

The TSP cam that I was looking at has the following specs: TSP Custom 224 Cam: 224/224, .566"/.566", 112 LSA

Description: 1700-6500 RPM Power Band; This cam has great mid-range and top-end power with less lift and less aggressive lobes than the 224R. Custom tuning required on automatic cars.


The Thunder Racing cam package is as follows:

Thunder Racing LS1 Cam Swap Package Includes:
- Your Choice of Thunder Racing Custom Grind Camshaft
- Comp Cams 26918 Valve Springs
- Comp Cams 772 Titanium Retainers ($100 Additional)
- Thunder Racing Stock Length Pushrods (7.400)
- Cam Swap Gasket Kit (Specify Year of Car) $699.99

The TR cam I was thinking about getting has the following specs: 224/224 .563/.563 112 LSA


Would there be any difference between these cams?

TSP: 224/224, .566"/.566", 112 LSA
TR:224/224 .563/.563 112 LSA

What do you guys think?
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Old May 19, 2004 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by VaderWS6
I was comparing cam package prices with Texas Speed & Performance, and Thunder Racing. Texas Speed's prices are a lot cheaper, and seem to come with better parts.

Pack 1.Your choice of TSP custom-grind camshaft, Comp Cams 26918-16 valve springs good to .600" lift, Texas Speed & Performance hardened pushrods $559.99


Pack 2.Your choice of TSP camshaft, Manley valve springs good to .600" lift, Manley titanium retainers, Texas Speed & Performance hardened pushrods $599.99


Pack 3.Your choice of TSP camshaft, Manley valve springs good to .600" lift, Manley titanium retainers, Texas Speed & Performance hardened pushrods $659.99


Pack 4.Texas Speed TSP Camshaft, Crane Double Valve Springs, Titanium Retainers, Hardened Spring Seats, GM Valve Seals, Texas Speed & Performance Hardened Pushrods $669.99

The TSP cam that I was looking at has the following specs: TSP Custom 224 Cam: 224/224, .566"/.566", 112 LSA

Description: 1700-6500 RPM Power Band; This cam has great mid-range and top-end power with less lift and less aggressive lobes than the 224R. Custom tuning required on automatic cars.


The Thunder Racing cam package is as follows:

Thunder Racing LS1 Cam Swap Package Includes:
- Your Choice of Thunder Racing Custom Grind Camshaft
- Comp Cams 26918 Valve Springs
- Comp Cams 772 Titanium Retainers ($100 Additional)
- Thunder Racing Stock Length Pushrods (7.400)
- Cam Swap Gasket Kit (Specify Year of Car) $699.99

The TR cam I was thinking about getting has the following specs: 224/224 .563/.563 112 LSA


Would there be any difference between these cams?

TSP: 224/224, .566"/.566", 112 LSA
TR:224/224 .563/.563 112 LSA

What do you guys think?
Go with the TR224 it's an awesome producing cam across the board. Also the driveability is awesome.
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Old May 19, 2004 | 11:22 AM
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Check out TSP's new 225 cam.
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Old May 19, 2004 | 11:27 AM
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The TR224 has more agressive lobes than the TSP 224 cam which will make slightly more torque and have better street manners. The TSP 225 cam probably has a similar lobe to the TR224.

I'd highly recommend the TR224 cam, although I've seen some good results with the new TSP 225 cam too.
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Old May 19, 2004 | 12:01 PM
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might want to look at VHP cams also. http://www.vincihighperformance.com/superwebdeals.HTML
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Old May 19, 2004 | 12:15 PM
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I just got my TR224 in, and it's awesome. It took some getting used to, though-- the car wouldn't idle worth crap until I got it tuned (A4) and there's also a definite lope to the cam. The torque throughout the powerband is pretty amazing.
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Old May 19, 2004 | 12:48 PM
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Thunder has a nice complete package. I went that route with my setup. Their cam package is complete and they also throw in the new crank bolt. TR224 all the way.



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Old May 19, 2004 | 01:16 PM
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I got the 224/581/115 from TSP waitin to go in,waitin for a few more parts(manifold.),you can upgrade(springs,locks) a little more with TSP as well at a good price.
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TR224 is a proven performer, although I still am skeptical of it's low end tq compared to stock cam without having driven it.
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Originally Posted by Carvinta
TR224 is a proven performer, although I still am skeptical of it's low end tq compared to stock cam without having driven it.
i've yet to see any cam, any size not make more low end tq compared to the stock cam.
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I gained torque throughout the entire powerband.....
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Old May 20, 2004 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jrp
i've yet to see any cam, any size not make more low end tq compared to the stock cam.
Well, maybe I'm biased from being an A4, but by low end I mean 1.6-3.5k rpm. I know I might get unusual looks from that, but something that I can still put on the stock converter and not feel like a dog. If indeed the Tr224 has more 'low end', I could temporarily run it with the stock converter and still feel like the car is fine or better at all non-racing speeds. The question is not why, but am I off base here?
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'Verter first, then cam. That's the way it should go. Even better, match the two.
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My stock headed TR224 made 300rwtq at 2500rpms with an open QTEC and 345rwtq at 3000rpms and 360rwtq at 3500rpms. This is much better than my stock cam by far. As far as lowend under 2500rpms I have no numbers to give you but I can tell no loss of power over the stock cam. I can accelerate up these steep *** WV hills in 6th gear at 1700rpms fine just like I could with the stock cam.
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Originally Posted by Carvinta
Well, maybe I'm biased from being an A4, but by low end I mean 1.6-3.5k rpm. I know I might get unusual looks from that, but something that I can still put on the stock converter and not feel like a dog. If indeed the Tr224 has more 'low end', I could temporarily run it with the stock converter and still feel like the car is fine or better at all non-racing speeds. The question is not why, but am I off base here?
you'll pick up tons more time doing a converter first if you want the sound of a cam just pull a plug wire or two off.
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