Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Experimental ls6 heads

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 23, 2014 | 12:12 AM
  #1  
greasess's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
15 Year Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 101
Likes: 0
Default Experimental ls6 heads

I thought I would share what I have been working on. My goal with this reshaped combustion chamber is a faster more complete burn and less chance of detonation. The finished chamber is on a 317 casting and the welded up rough chamber is a 243 that will actually end up on the car. This will end up on a gen 3 4.8 that will have a 76mm precision turbo on it very soon. I'm also going to pull my 862 castings off the car and cut a groove in them like the picture I uploaded and dyno before and after. This groove is supposed to improve/ increase the amount of turbulence in the chamber and help out with gas millage, resistance to detonation and increase midrange and bottom end power. If this works I will include this on my welded up 243 heads. I welcome all constructive criticism.
Attached Thumbnails Experimental ls6 heads-243.jpg   Experimental ls6 heads-test-head.jpg   Experimental ls6 heads-groove.jpg  
Reply
Old Jun 23, 2014 | 03:17 AM
  #2  
AINT SKEERED's Avatar
TECH Junkie
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 3,990
Likes: 361
From: Albany La
Default

I've seen the groove on several local cars. Ones a turbo car and the other was a 408 . Both ran strong but hard to say its from using the groove.
Reply
Old Jun 23, 2014 | 05:29 AM
  #3  
Exidous's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,747
Likes: 4
From: Under a rock
Default

If expanding gas is to be passing through the groove I'd probably try to remove some of the corner to avoid any hot spots. Although I'd think it would be most beneficial when reaching TDC on the compression stroke rather than pressure distribution ATDC on the power stroke.

An interesting idea for sure.
Reply
Old Jun 23, 2014 | 09:12 AM
  #4  
truckdoug's Avatar
9 Second Club
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (26)
 
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 6,389
Likes: 558
From: Portlandia
Default

looks groovy! (sorry couldn't resist a corny dad-joke opportunity)
in for results

share with me your filler rod/welder seting please
Reply
Old Jun 23, 2014 | 11:31 AM
  #5  
greasess's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
15 Year Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 101
Likes: 0
Default

I'll find out what filler rod and welder settings the dude who welded them used. I can't weld aluminum for S$%T. As far as smoothing the edges on the end of the groove I completely agree. I don't need any hotspots while trying to achieve a boost friendly 11/1 pump gas engine. If all this works out I'm planning on building a 4.03 bore 3.26 stroke 333 cube engine with much higher compression to be used with e85 or e100.
Reply
Old Jun 23, 2014 | 11:37 AM
  #6  
RockinWs6's Avatar
TECH Addict
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 2,628
Likes: 30
Default

Groovey!
Reply
Old Jun 23, 2014 | 12:27 PM
  #7  
greasess's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
15 Year Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 101
Likes: 0
Default

I'm really tempted to NOT round the edges of the groove because I feel it would help promote turbulence approaching tdc like Exidous mentioned but the whole hotspot issue is what's holding me back. Also at that point the groove wouldn't provide much of a benefit for flame propagation just after tdc on the power stroke. I'm also undecided about the direction I should aim the groove(s). I could position them 90 deg to the direction of swirl or roughly in the direction of swirl.
Attached Thumbnails Experimental ls6 heads-test-head2.jpg  
Reply
Old Jun 23, 2014 | 12:32 PM
  #8  
greasess's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
15 Year Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 101
Likes: 0
Default

This would be an example of "with direction of swirl"
Attached Thumbnails Experimental ls6 heads-test-head3.jpg  
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jun 23, 2014 | 06:02 PM
  #9  
RonSSNova's Avatar
8 Second Club
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Top Answer: 1
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 4,729
Likes: 814
From: Portland, OR
Default

Interesting work. If you look at the AFR chambers, there is a strong resemblance.

And say it isn't so that you are porting heads for a turbo motor!
EVERYONE knows, all you need to do is add more boost.....
:-)

Keep us posted.
Reply
Old Jun 24, 2014 | 01:23 PM
  #10  
greasess's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
15 Year Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 101
Likes: 0
Default

I am porting heads for a turbo motor! I'm also experimenting with a textured surface on the intake ports to aid in creating turbulence in the intake charge and improve laminar flow characteristics. My goal with the intake ports is to improve flow not just at .600 lift but as much as I can under the curve. Some of you may have noticed the weld behind the valve guide on the intake port as well. I have spent many hours on this design. As far as the chamber goes, I know it's not new or my idea. Many of the engines entered in the engine master's challenge use a similar design. I first came across a chamber like this on a trickflow R windsor head.
Reply
Old Jun 24, 2014 | 01:58 PM
  #11  
RonSSNova's Avatar
8 Second Club
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Top Answer: 1
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 4,729
Likes: 814
From: Portland, OR
Default

Turbo motors respond to flow improvements for sure. I agree that it's a good thing
Fun project.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:33 AM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE