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Old Aug 14, 2014 | 10:30 AM
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I have a 2006 LQ9 that i'm building.

Can someone please lead me in the direction of what I should do or who will have adjustable crank sprocket for the Katech timing chain.

I would like to use the Katech Timing chain if possible but I want to advance my TU2 cam 4 degrees as Brian Tooley recommended.

The machinist I spoke with wants one that doesn't have any extra parts and is adjustable in 2 degree increments.

Any help or thoughts?

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Old Aug 14, 2014 | 04:09 PM
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Cloyes hex-adjust. Just get the one with the LS2 chain and swap chains. I believe this was originally what Katech did as well.
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Old Aug 14, 2014 | 07:56 PM
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Is that Hex Adjust reliable and strong enough? Does anyone offer a one piece crank sprocket with 2 degree increments?
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Should I ditch the Katech C5R chain and go with a Rollmaster Double setup? Need some opinions.
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Old Aug 14, 2014 | 09:16 PM
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I'm going to run the hex adjust gear with my 5 chain
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Old Aug 15, 2014 | 06:56 AM
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I am running the Cloyes Hex-Adjust and the IRL chain. Best setup they ever made. I personally wouldn't go to the double and they are not infallible either (there have been breakages of those too).
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Id use the new seamless designed Hinson C7R chain. It's stronger than the C5R chain... Just something to think about. Overkill either way you go.
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If you don't have the C5R chain yet, you can get the Cloyes Adustable Timing Set with the C5R chain on it for like $245-250. The Hex-A-Just is 275-280. But the regular 3-way or 9-way are in the 245-250 range and offer 2 degree adjustments.

I have the Rollmaster Double and it wasn't bad to install. I didn't have to clearance anything and it lined up fine. I did buy an oil pump that was pre-clearanced for the chain which helped.
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You'll want the Cloyes with the 9-keyway Crank Sprockets. It offers the most foolproof method to adjust the ICL. Which is what your machinist is recommending you get. It allows for up to +8* advance/retard in 2* increments at the crank, which equals up to +4* advance/retard in 1* increments at the cam.
http://www.texas-speed.com/p-3933-cl...-bolt-cam.aspx

The only down side is that it's not infinitely adjustable like the Hex-A-Just is.

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I already have the C5R chain and OEM cam and crank sprockets.

I'll just pick up this kit and attempt to sell the chain with the 2 sprockets. It'll all be new so hopefully someone can benefit from it.

http://www.cnc-motorsports.com/cloye...-9-keyway.html

I purchased the C5R chain probably 2 weeks before the release of the C7R lol FML! That's how this stuff works but that's alright it's an amazing chain.

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I use the Cloyes Hex a just & C5R chain....a C5R chain hasn't been broken yet while racing.
Fit the LS2 damper with the Trick flow bracket if your block isn't drilled or if drilled there is another damper option available, 'search'

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DreamKA, make sure you're getting the right one since Cloyes also
offers the 9-3658TX9 which seem to work in the same applications. I'm not sure what the difference is(if any) so make sure before buying one or the other.
http://www.texas-speed.com/p-3932-cl...-bolt-cam.aspx
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Originally Posted by JakeFusion
If you don't have the C5R chain yet, you can get the Cloyes Adustable Timing Set with the C5R chain on it for like $245-250. The Hex-A-Just is 275-280. But the regular 3-way or 9-way are in the 245-250 range and offer 2 degree adjustments.

I have the Rollmaster Double and it wasn't bad to install. I didn't have to clearance anything and it lined up fine. I did buy an oil pump that was pre-clearanced for the chain which helped.
Cloyes does not sell the C5-R chain. They were falsely advertising the C5-R chain in their kit a while back.

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I already have the C5R chain and OEM cam and crank sprockets.

I'll just pick up this kit and attempt to sell the chain with the 2 sprockets. It'll all be new so hopefully someone can benefit from it.

http://www.cnc-motorsports.com/cloye...-9-keyway.html

I purchased the C5R chain probably 2 weeks before the release of the C7R lol FML! That's how this stuff works but that's alright it's an amazing chain.
If you're concerned about having the chain that's actually in the C7.R, then don't be. You have it. The C5-R, C6.R and C7.R race cars all use the same chain. Hinson Motorsports is just using the C7.R name, and is not actually supplying the chain to GM Racing.
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Old Aug 18, 2014 | 09:38 AM
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I just coupled the Katech C5R chain with the JP Adjustable LS2 timing set and it worked very well. Barely any slack without a dampener and the LS2 dampener fit great and eliminated any slack.
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