Hey and hello,

I have been a watcher of the board for many years now...and I'm finally participating primarily because I finally have some camaros to play with. I was previously 'blackz28x5' because my goal is to have all 5 generation z28's..I changed the name because although I still want all 5 I actually want a zl1 as well...and they have a 6th gen coming so might as well not put limits on me lol.

My love for the cars came from my pops...he had a 79z28; 85 Irocz28, and a 2001 SS.

I currently have a 92 Heritage Ed. z28; and a 2002 z28; with a 2013/14 zl1 ordered (I am still unsure which i want my deposit to go to because I prefer the back the 13 but the interior and wider body of the 14).

So to my question:

Originally the plan was to keep it simple and this was the set up I planned:

My question concerns the performance aspect. I want to keep this car as a daily driver and not go to heavy mod as they are going to be "collectibles" so I want to maintain as close to stock as I can and not get too crazy. With that being said my boy has a 2011 Challenger RT...this car MUST be faster lol. I can't even find the SLP H/C kit anymore so I figured I would ask you guys for any quick links to a good set up. I was thinking the header kit from ricks plus a good Head and Cam set up I should be good. So as long as you guys don't think the ls6 intake and the header kit from ricks is a bad choice i just need to mate this with a Head & cam setup. Thoughts?

Yes I am not new to forums but you guys are a lot more technical then my experience...i have done full interior swaps, fiberglass work, engine swaps, trans swaps, but nothing internal if that makes sense...Basically if something in the engine is broke I install a new engine lol...im a self taught "mechanic" give me a book and instructions and as long as i have the tools I will try it. I just need a few places to look THEN i will sit for the hours needed to do my research.

Thanks in advanced

 

For Z28:
What transmission, A4 or M6..?
What rpm range are you looking for the most gains, how high to you plan/want to spin the motor..?
Are you looking for a stock like, mild chop , or heavy chop/lope idle ..?
Does it need to pass a emission sniffer test..?
What's important to you: max power(aggressive cam lobes) short valve train life is OK, or longer valve train life(mild cam lobes)with a little less hp /tq gains..?

 

Sorry about that I forgot to include info ahhh the noob mistake...

Auto 4speed

RPM range...hmm tis a good question...this will remain mostly a daily driver, the occasional hey im faster than you on the highway etc...or if we go out to this industrial lot i have access to thru some real estate holdings theres an occasional 1/4 mile fun. In my mind my camaro is lighter than his challenger so i should get him off the jump anyway and if i have the rwhp to beat him i should be able to have him even after 3rd and 4th, no?

stock/mild chop/...not even going to act like i know what you mean..dumb it down for me just 1-2 levels

Yes for emissions, altho technically I could say no and just register the car in Champaign lol...but YES for now lol

Also if it helps...this car will ONLY be driven on dry days all above 60 degrees..and stored in a garage all other times

 

Okay my first suggestion with the car having a A4 trans is a higher stall TC, a 3k-3200 rpm stall TC is what I'd go with, with a cam that'll still pass the emissions sniffer test. Without a stall upgrade I would keep the cam size very small, or stay with the stock cam.

 

ok cool...well time to go research torque converters as my knowledge is basic as what it is does etc...any particular brand you recommend?**************************************** ****************

haha cool just read 3 different articles on high stall torque converters lol interesting stuff. Correct me if I am wrong but this would be perfect for 1/4 racing...smoking people at a red light etc?

 

Look at Circle D, and Yank
http://www.circledspecialties.com/c-...-ls-style.aspx
http://www.converter.cc/F_Body_s/59.htm

Yes, the converter upgrade will make a big difference in performance!

For the heads Have Advance Induction go over you factory head with their Ai 218cc CNC'd GM 243 LS2/LS6 Cylinder Head Package, and have the mill the heads for 62cc chambers, for a nice bump in compression(SCR) without taking it to high. For valve springs either PAC1211X or 1218X beehive singles.
http://www.briantooleyracing.com/chevrolet.html

For a cam Something about the same or very similar to a Crane 216/224 114lsa+4 ( lift .585"/.585", with -8* overlap), would pass emissions but perform very well on the street with the 3200 stall TC, and still be daily driver friendly.
FYI, Cam Motion can grind you a similar custom cam, but probably even better suited to you needs if you're possibly considering a custom cam grind. Just make sure to them know you need -6* overlap to possibly get by emissions testing.
http://www.cammotion.com/contact.php
For headers and Y-pipe go with either Kooks or ARH for the best fitment and quality that still made in the USA..

 

awesome thanks! yea i just spent the last few hours checking into the transmissions and converters..its so informative lol. I undertand (well i think i do) that the reason I want to use the high stall is so that i can build up the rpm so that out the gate the impeller speed is as close to equal the turbine speed..right?

The one thing im wondering is if I change my brake setup to the brembo slotted or cross drilled setup, wouldnt I need to get a higher rpm stall converter?

 

Another thing to consider is a Procharger setup. You can keep stock like drivability and it's a bolt on system. And it can add 150rwhp pretty easily to an otherwise stock motor. I'd then go with a smaller stall around 3000 to 3200 to pair with it. Would be emissions friendly and be really fast.

Also, you should be beating a Challenger, if it's a 5.7L. It doesn't really have any more power and is MUCH heavier.