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Old 01-17-2017, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by G Atsma
You do realize this thread is over 2 years old.....
You do realize people reply to 2 year old threads, right? That it's actually convenient because he's had 2 years of experience with these springs.
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Originally Posted by A.R. Shale Targa
IIRC one of them broke and caused catastrophic failure but I'm sure he'll chime in soon enough
That would be a shame... I hope it wasn't the case. Thank you though.
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Originally Posted by acpm
That would be a shame... I hope it wasn't the case. Thank you though.
Yeah, one of them broke. Almost done with the new engine though. It has dual springs...
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Originally Posted by KCS
Yeah, one of them broke. Almost done with the new engine though. It has dual springs...
Ouch, sorry to hear about the motor. Did it break under high rpm/strain? I assume it wasn't install error knowing your background, so maybe there is something to be said about the control/safety of dual springs.
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
Ouch, sorry to hear about the motor. Did it break under high rpm/strain? I assume it wasn't install error knowing your background, so maybe there is something to be said about the control/safety of dual springs.
It broke as I was just cruising home from a movie. I hadn't gone over 4000 RPM since the swap and it broke at around 2000 RPM.

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dannnnng. So much for single/conicals.
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Finally got the head off today. Honestly, I think I got lucky. I could probably have the head fixed or replaced and have it running again in a week or two.

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That is impressive, not sure I've ever seen a valve that shape before lol.
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
That is impressive, not sure I've ever seen a valve that shape before lol.
Yeah I know! It's definitely going on the wall of shame right next to the broken spring.
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In the picture with the valve seat, what is the mark to the right of the valve guide? Is that where the valve came
through and hit it?
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Originally Posted by slogo
In the picture with the valve seat, what is the mark to the right of the valve guide? Is that where the valve came
through and hit it?
Yep, it beat it up a little but it doesn't seem to have really hurt anything.
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So it would be fair to say not a positive review KCS?

Sorry to hear your bad fortune, are Comp helping out with some funds at all (other than maybe just the cost of the springs) or is it pretty much bad luck, black duck?

Jason.
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If you want a good spring stay away from comp. Look into a set of psi beehives. They are even lighter than the comp conical and way better quality.
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It's too bad there is no other safety mechanism other than spring retainers or double springs to keep valves from falling down.
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Originally Posted by Jase01
So it would be fair to say not a positive review KCS?

Sorry to hear your bad fortune, are Comp helping out with some funds at all (other than maybe just the cost of the springs) or is it pretty much bad luck, black duck?

Jason.
I hate to blame Comp without knowing why it broke, but I'm pretty certain there was nothing wrong with the way they were installed or handled that could have caused this.

They haven't come outright and said anything about money or reimbursement, but I haven't gotten much of a reply when I emailed them. All I really want is for them to take the springs back and determine a root cause. If there was something wrong with the spring, hopefully they can use the info to make a better product. If I did something wrong, then I'll learn from it. I hope to hear back this week.
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Originally Posted by slogo
It's too bad there is no other safety mechanism other than spring retainers or double springs to keep valves from falling down.
The safety mechanism is don't buy junk springs. It's not like comp has some great rep on springs. Remember all the 918s that broke?
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I dont see these springs on their website anymore......
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Originally Posted by KCS
I hate to blame Comp without knowing why it broke, but I'm pretty certain there was nothing wrong with the way they were installed or handled that could have caused this.

They haven't come outright and said anything about money or reimbursement, but I haven't gotten much of a reply when I emailed them. All I really want is for them to take the springs back and determine a root cause. If there was something wrong with the spring, hopefully they can use the info to make a better product. If I did something wrong, then I'll learn from it. I hope to hear back this week.
A very mature reasonable approach, I fully appreciate with modified engines and the nature of their use there's always a risk of component failure, and getting/expecting refunds is a sketchy prospect.

But given your apparent experience and attention to detail based on your posts on here and the fact it's really only a fairly new product, I don't think it would be unreasonable to expect Comp to help you out with some funds if it's proven their component failed in such a short time.
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After reading about the failure KCS had a few weeks ago, I researched these springs more and noticed they did have a bunch of failures on these. I wonder if it was related to the Comp 918's and metal fatique. Possibly bad metal used.
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Funny thing that back when lobe technology for the LS was basically retro-fitting Big Block Ford cam blanks (.540"-.568" lifts) there were almost no 915/918 spring failures. Once the new wave of LS specific stuff began pushing .580"-.610" lift and maximizing the tip motion of a factory rocker: Beehives basically "tapped out"...............then quality dual kits became all the rage.
I've used hundreds of sets of Comp Cams springs over the last thirty years with ZERO FAILURES. I haven't the faintest clue which company makes them for Comp. DON'T CARE
From stock pressure stuff to high RPM road racing roller cams in the 900 psi open pressure range. Plenty friends of mine have used triple stuff for .900" lift drag applications.
Springs have a brutal life and the entire valv etrain needs to be a planned out entity.
At 7000 rpms each valve opens/closes something like 58 times per second
At 9000 that number jumps to 87 times per second.....quite insane really
KCS knows his **** and sweats the details................NO DOUBT
but perhaps this is just a case where a single coil, no matter it's shape or weight, just simply can't keep all things in check, at any rpm.......


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