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Old Dec 2, 2014 | 07:46 PM
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For a fairly mild build, is it recommend to upgrade to a double roller timing set?
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Old Dec 2, 2014 | 08:01 PM
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IMO, it's not necessary at all.
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Old Dec 2, 2014 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 99Bluz28
IMO, it's not necessary at all.
Ok thank you.Any recommendations?
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Old Dec 2, 2014 | 09:15 PM
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LS 2 chain on your stock gears, Avon pro gear single, C5R are all decent options.
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Old Dec 2, 2014 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by A.R. Shale Targa
LS 2 chain on your stock gears, Avon pro gear single, C5R are all decent options.
Well the stock gears I have are off a very abused high mileage 5.3 so kinda sketched out on reusing them. I saw a set on TSP (I think cloyes) with a ZO6 chain. Can I use the complete LS2 set or something comparable
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Old Dec 3, 2014 | 02:40 AM
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Cloyes billet true roller.
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Old Dec 3, 2014 | 07:21 AM
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C5R chain is high but you'll have a peace of mind.
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Old Dec 3, 2014 | 08:22 AM
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Rollmaster makes a good timing set
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Ls2 chain will be sufficient. Can't go wrong with a nice double roller though...I got a JP double roller..nice piece.
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Old Dec 4, 2014 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by lsxdick
Ls2 chain will be sufficient. Can't go wrong with a nice double roller though...I got a JP double roller..nice piece.
Like this JP ? What are the brackets for ? Can a complete set made for LS2 fit gmoutdoorsman's 5.3 or my LS1 ?

How bad would it be to re-use my LS1 chain ?
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Old Dec 4, 2014 | 03:52 PM
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Yup thats the one. Pretty sure JPs are the same as rollmaster. I think the brackets you are referring to, the little triangular and rectangular shaped things, are the shims. They give you a little more clearance between the oil pump and chain. I'm 99% sure that LS2 stuff will on a 5.3, It will work on an LS1. This is a quote from Sales4@Texas-Speed regarding the LS1 chain "LS2 timing chains are stronger then stock LS1 timing chains. LS1 timing chains are known to stretch over time so its not a bad idea to replace the stock chain with the LS2. For only 42 dollars I feel that it is definitely worth the time as you are already down there doing the work anyway. You can buy aftermarket chains for not that much more money but for someone on a budget looking for a decent chain on a mild build it is a good deal".
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I kinda get the feeling gmoutdoorsman is building on a engine stand. For him, it's a no-brainer.
I will be installing behind the shed, engine in a car without a working oil pressure gauge, 1/2" between the pan and the steering rack, first time cam install. I'm worried about getting the pick-up tube O-ring in without pinching it.
I'm trying not to his thread so this question on his behalf: Is the double roller better because the extra chain link in the middle reduces stretch ?
When a timing chain stretches does the cam advance or retard ?
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Originally Posted by squalor
I'm trying not to his thread so this question on his behalf: Is the double roller better because the extra chain link in the middle reduces stretch ?
When a timing chain stretches does the cam advance or retard ?
Single roller has only one chain, like so:



Double roller has two chains:

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I have a roll master heat treated double roller, very nice piece. Peace of mind for me.
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Originally Posted by KCS
Single roller has only one chain, like so:



Double roller has two chains:

One of my favorite rappers..... :-)
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Robert Cantu
Cloyes billet true roller.
I think im going with cloyes. Says ZO6 chain, is that similar to the LS2 chain?
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Originally Posted by FIVEPOINT7
I have a roll master heat treated double roller, very nice piece. Peace of mind for me.
What,s peace of mind about with that!

I broke one of those, lots of damage.

Peace of mind is Cloyes hex a just with extreme C5R chain & LS2 damper fitted, if not drilled for damper use the Trick Flow bracket.
I now have 'PEACE OF MIND'

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Originally Posted by ls1 1990 VN
What,s peace of mind about with that!

I broke one of those, lots of damage.

Peace of mind is Cloyes hex a just with extreme C5R chain & LS2 damper fitted, if not drilled for damper use the Trick Flow bracket.
I now have 'PEACE OF MIND'
Were you running the ATI damper at that time?
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Old Dec 6, 2014 | 02:00 AM
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For budget reasons I think I've settled on an LS2 timing set. $110 (TSP) should be plenty durable for my fairly mild 347 build
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Originally Posted by poltergeist 02
Were you running the ATI damper at that time?
NO!

I was using a 25% underdrive Powerbond
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