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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 02:17 PM
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I currently have the bolt ons below with stock 241 heads and LS1 intake:

AMR 1 3/4 LTs
O/R Y-pipe
SLP LMII catback
K&N FIPK Intake
LS7 clutch with B&M shifter
BMR Springs, Bilsteins, UMI Panhard, STB, SFC, LCA, LCA Brackets, T/A, T/A Relocation
Rebuilt 10-bolt with 4.10's (until it blows)

Going to be adding the following H/C/I combo over the next 2 years or so:

Vengeance VRX5 236/238 .601/.605
FAST 92/92
TFS 215's or PRC 2.5 LS6 ($$ permitting )

Is it recommended to go with the cam or the FAST intake/TB first, followed by the other? Want to make sure I'm maximizing as I build. I would say cam first for sure if I had an LS6 intake, but I know how restrictive the LS1 can be. Thanks for the input!

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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 02:20 PM
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I'll definitely go cam first! More bang for your buck.
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 02:30 PM
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Yep, cam first for sure. Lots of guy run a cam with stock heads and a FAST intake. The whole point of an aftermarket intake is to help the engine consume and expel more air, which it's going to need to do with an aftermarket cam. GM designed the LS6 intake to be plenty for the stock cam, so putting an aftermarket intake on it with the stock cam isn't going to gain you much. Will it gain some, sure, but not near as much as a cam would with stock intake. Is the cost of doing a cam upgrade more expensive than doing an intake sway, yes, but I wouldn't see the point of upgrading the intake now if your future plans didn't include a cam swap.
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 03:44 PM
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Oh you better do a CAM! Haha
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 04:00 PM
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A cam will get you a whole lot more power than a FAST 92 on a stock cam/stock heads LS1.
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 04:26 PM
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Don't make my mistake. Do heads/cam together. Its a lot cheaper that way.
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 04:45 PM
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Another vote for cam first
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 05:10 PM
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Okay so it looks like cam first it is. Thanks for the input!

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Don't make my mistake. Do heads/cam together. Its a lot cheaper that way.
How is it that much cheaper? I'll get a set of bare TFS heads, and use my springs, retainers, etc from my cam build.
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Originally Posted by MikeWS6
Don't make my mistake. Do heads/cam together. Its a lot cheaper that way.
How is it cheaper?
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 06:54 PM
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Well, for one, you only have to pay for one tune as opposed to two if you do them together.
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 06:59 PM
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And you don't have to pay for labor twice if you're the kind of guy that doesn't want to get his hands dirty.
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I'd say cam & intake would be cheaper with labor included but net you less power. Cam & heads is way more money for parts and labor...
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How is it that much cheaper?
How is it cheaper?
As mentioned, getting tuned once cost less money than re-tuning for a new mod. Also, removing the heads makes a cam swap easier and less involved, thus you can save on labor costs.

For example, if it takes 8 hours to do a cam and 4 hours to do heads, doing them together will only take 10 hours.
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 08:28 PM
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I see Vengeance offers a head and cam package, which I may just wait for and do it all at once. Looking at doing the TFS 220s with the VRX5 for about 3k with all supporting components. Stick with the stock LS1 intake for now, and look forward to the added 25-30 hp with the FAST 92/92 down the road. Done with the suspension and drivetrain mods shortly, and looking forward to adding some power.
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 08:55 PM
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The classified section on here is a good place to source parts as well.
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 09:17 PM
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Save your money and do the entire H/C/I package all at the same time...and go with the Trick Flow heads
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 09:46 PM
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You can get the TFS 220cc heads from Brian Tooley and have him do some hand porting/blending on them.
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 11:13 PM
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Cam for sure..one can gain 50hp the other 20 at best. You can make good power with a stock intake. Make it one of the later mods
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