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Old Jan 14, 2015 | 07:35 PM
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Why are the Ls 7 lifters better than Ls 6 or any other Ls based engine?
Also do you need to swap lifter buckets when switching to Ls 7's?
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Old Jan 14, 2015 | 07:45 PM
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They are not, they were just used in the LS7 and fairly cheap so stupid people blindly jumped on the bandwagon.
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Thanks for the heads up.
I thought they were something special by the way everyone makes sure to tell people they are using them.

And I was about to jump on the same wagon and didn't know why.
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Old Jan 14, 2015 | 08:17 PM
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Thy are fine, they are stock replacement, they might be better than the DOD engine lifters but not LS1.
The LS7 turns a lot of rpm so people assumed the lifter was part of that ignoring the use of titanium and such which had more to do with the rm capabilities.

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actually now the entire lineup of LS lifters in every engine is the same one originally used in the LS7, with the exception of a DOD lifter, which obviously is special use for the DOD cylinders.

Standard stuff. Nothing fancy about it.

i highly suggest an aftermarket lifter such as a Morel for any build than an LS7 lifter. too many failures for me to recommend them, although many shops will tell you they 'wont have a problem'
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Old Jan 14, 2015 | 08:53 PM
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I put a set in my 5.7 about 4 years ago when I did heads and a cam and they never had a problem.

I purchased a new set this past summer for a 408, and at around 50 break in miles, started getting the lifter tick that comes and goes. I could pinpoint it to the driver side, but never could figure out which one was having the problem and they are still sitting in a box, 15 good and 1 bad and no idea which.

If you do ho with a drop in style lifter, get a new set of LS2 trays. They are around $30.

I just said hell with it and went with high rpm linkbars now, no more ticking
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Old Jan 15, 2015 | 01:33 AM
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I got the morel 5315's for a little more cash, I'd like to think of them as an upgrade, but only time will tell.
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I put in a set of LS7 Caddi race lifters back in Dec 2012, they were pulled & checked on last engine work & cam change in Jan 2014, still running quiet.
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Originally Posted by ls1 1990 VN
I put in a set of LS7 Caddi race lifters back in Dec 2012, they were pulled & checked on last engine work & cam change in Jan 2014, still running quiet.
Which is it, LS7 OR Cadillac racing?
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Honestly I wouldn't run either. If you want to do a drop in, nothing wrong with them at all, I would run a 4793 (PAC-LFT102-LS) or if link bars a 5206 (PAC-LFT105-LS). I just don't trust OE lifters any more after talking to a few race teams that build LS engines, both road race and drag race. That and seeing how the stocks did on a stock cam with aftermarket rockers on the spintron here.
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When using the link bar style lifters you leave the buckets out?
Also are the link bar style necessary on a daily driver street motor?
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Originally Posted by TurboChapman
When using the link bar style lifters you leave the buckets out?
Also are the link bar style necessary on a daily driver street motor?
you take the buckets out.

necessary? I guess nothing is really necessary but IMO its more reliable than a non link bar lifter.

heres a photo for you to decide.
Lunati/Morel vs an LS7
note the massive .750 wheel on the Morel.
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That's friggin impressive.
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Old Jan 15, 2015 | 08:41 PM
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i thought so.
ive actually seen cams with aggressive enough ramp rate to crack the lower portion of the lifter body unless it has an open design larger 750 wheel like the morel does.
i kid you not. broke them.
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Are they heavier?
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I wouldn't worry about the weight. That portion of the valve train has very little effect as far as weight.
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Less than the other end of the rocker at any rate.
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Old Jan 15, 2015 | 09:28 PM
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if i was daily driving id stick with stock style lifters and buckets, they last alot of miles in stock vehicles
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A good read on lifters http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/sh....php?t=1147938
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good read! looks like I will be sticking with my 5315 morels and drilled ls2 trays.
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