Double checking before I buy new cam.
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Staging Lane
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Double checking before I buy new cam. Okay so I believe I have everything down that I need for a cam swap. (the parts, not the tools)
ported ls6 oil pump (tsp)
ls2 timing chain
Longer ARP cam bolt
228r cam package from texas speed
The Kit comes with
-228r camshaft 10 LSA
-Texas Speed Hardened Chromoly Pushrods (7.400 length)
-Single Beehive valve springs Rated to .625" Lift. (I can buy dual instead if I need to)
http://www.texas-speed.com/p-1157-te...ve-spring.aspx
I know I will also need a dyno tune but is that it?
What about titanium retainers? yes? no?
I'm open to any input. Thanks guys
2000 ls1 trans am
Air & egr delete, long tubes and exhaust. 105,000 miles,manual transmission.
ported ls6 oil pump (tsp)
ls2 timing chain
Longer ARP cam bolt
228r cam package from texas speed
The Kit comes with
-228r camshaft 10 LSA
-Texas Speed Hardened Chromoly Pushrods (7.400 length)
-Single Beehive valve springs Rated to .625" Lift. (I can buy dual instead if I need to)
http://www.texas-speed.com/p-1157-te...ve-spring.aspx
I know I will also need a dyno tune but is that it?
What about titanium retainers? yes? no?
I'm open to any input. Thanks guys
2000 ls1 trans am
Air & egr delete, long tubes and exhaust. 105,000 miles,manual transmission.
Last edited by Cmg393; Feb 27, 2015 at 05:41 PM.
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Staging Lane
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I would go bigger but I have never had a cammed LS.
I am not sure how big I can go without causing problems. I would like a "simple swap"
It's my daily but I do have something else to drive.
The fact that you are planning on putting a lot of miles on it, I would pay attention to lobe design. Don't pick a cam with rowdy lobes if you want reliability. As far as the Ti retainers go, If this car is going to see a lot of mileage then I would stay away from titanium and stick with the stock retainers if you are going to run beehives. Check out the Street Sweeper HT 228/232 600/612 111lsa. I'm not sure what your plans are for the car after you do the work, but if you plan to keep modding it more, you may want to consider something else based off of where you want the car to eventually end up.
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The fact that you are planning on putting a lot of miles on it, I would pay attention to lobe design. Don't pick a cam with rowdy lobes if you want reliability. As far as the Ti retainers go, If this car is going to see a lot of mileage then I would stay away from titanium and stick with the stock retainers if you are going to run beehives. Check out the Street Sweeper HT 228/232 600/612 111lsa. I'm not sure what your plans are for the car after you do the work, but if you plan to keep modding it more, you may want to consider something else based off of where you want the car to eventually end up.
And I plan on just a cam. Something that's nice and fun.
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Staging Lane
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I want a cam that has a good lower power. I don't rev past 6,500 rpm.
Its a daily (not really crappy mpg, its in the tune but you get the point) so I don't want something to unreliable and I don' want a small baby cam.
I want it to fit without having to flycut anything.
I plan on just going cam only for a long time.
and oh okay I'll be going with steel retainers then! thanks man
Its a daily (not really crappy mpg, its in the tune but you get the point) so I don't want something to unreliable and I don' want a small baby cam.
I want it to fit without having to flycut anything.
I plan on just going cam only for a long time.
and oh okay I'll be going with steel retainers then! thanks man
Here's what I'd do on a street car. If you plan to run the stock heads, then I'd do the Titan 4 (227/232 113+4) with the Double Spring kit with steel retainers and heavy wall 7.425" pushrods from Cam Motion:
http://store.cammotion.com/the-titan4
http://store.cammotion.com/double-sp...teel-retainers
http://store.cammotion.com/pushrods-516-x-7425-120-wall
http://store.cammotion.com/the-titan4
http://store.cammotion.com/double-sp...teel-retainers
http://store.cammotion.com/pushrods-516-x-7425-120-wall
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So what's cospeed and I have been deciding on is a 227/235 .6xx/.6xx 112 +2 lsa on springs that are exactly like btr's extreme dual springs good to a .660 lift.
Wanting more feedback because this sounds like what I'm about to get. Thanks(:!
Wanting more feedback because this sounds like what I'm about to get. Thanks(:!
Okay so I believe I have everything down that I need for a cam swap. (the parts, not the tools)
ported ls6 oil pump (tsp)
ls2 timing chain
Longer ARP cam bolt
228r cam package from texas speed
The Kit comes with
-228r camshaft 10 LSA
-Texas Speed Hardened Chromoly Pushrods (7.400 length)
-Single Beehive valve springs Rated to .625" Lift. (I can buy dual instead if I need to)
http://www.texas-speed.com/p-1157-te...ve-spring.aspx
I know I will also need a dyno tune but is that it?
What about titanium retainers? yes? no?
I'm open to any input. Thanks guys
2000 ls1 trans am
Air & egr delete, long tubes and exhaust. 105,000 miles,manual transmission.
ported ls6 oil pump (tsp)
ls2 timing chain
Longer ARP cam bolt
228r cam package from texas speed
The Kit comes with
-228r camshaft 10 LSA
-Texas Speed Hardened Chromoly Pushrods (7.400 length)
-Single Beehive valve springs Rated to .625" Lift. (I can buy dual instead if I need to)
http://www.texas-speed.com/p-1157-te...ve-spring.aspx
I know I will also need a dyno tune but is that it?
What about titanium retainers? yes? no?
I'm open to any input. Thanks guys
2000 ls1 trans am
Air & egr delete, long tubes and exhaust. 105,000 miles,manual transmission.
If you wanted a bit more cam something like a Speed Inc SI5 231/237 or TSP torquer 2 232/234 would be a good choices as well.
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sounds similar to the SNS Stage 2
http://www.tickperformance.com/tick-...1-ls6-engines/
http://www.tickperformance.com/tick-...1-ls6-engines/
Everything sounds similar to nearly every other companies cam because there are only so many ways to make a cam. You start to spec in a circle soon enough. It def doesnt use the same lobes though that is the difference. There are at least 3 separate lobes the public knows about that fit that "spec" @.050. A straight pattern cam like the 228 is honestly outdated compared to the newer lobes and profiles.
I take nothing personal. Its def a trend though. Look at all the "street" or "stage whatever" cam they are all nearly the same. There are so many options to choose from its ridiculous. An off shelf cam could work yes, but having a cam tailored to you gives it a personal touch and if we are still cheaper in doing that its pretty much a no brainer.
Everyone has their own way of looking at cams and specing them and pissing on them. I have a tough ski. I was merely clarifying and giving an explanation.
Everyone has their own way of looking at cams and specing them and pissing on them. I have a tough ski. I was merely clarifying and giving an explanation.
Here's what I'd do on a street car. If you plan to run the stock heads, then I'd do the Titan 4 (227/232 113+4) with the Double Spring kit with steel retainers and heavy wall 7.425" pushrods from Cam Motion:
http://store.cammotion.com/the-titan4
http://store.cammotion.com/double-sp...teel-retainers
http://store.cammotion.com/pushrods-516-x-7425-120-wall
http://store.cammotion.com/the-titan4
http://store.cammotion.com/double-sp...teel-retainers
http://store.cammotion.com/pushrods-516-x-7425-120-wall
And there are more than three lobes for a 227-228 @ .050"... there are the HUC, LSL, XE, XE-R, XFI, LXL, etc. More lobes from Cam Motion, throw in Lunati lobes, EPS or Ed Curtis or Damian or Futral custom lobes and yeah, you get the point.
Something around 228/232 is a very good cam in the LS1.