Another What Cam Thread
Another What Cam Thread First off it will just be my summer car, Weekend and nice weather maybe some track time. Right now the car has a GM Hotcam and wanting alittle more.
Cam choices are as follows.
Tick custom grind: 229/233 114 LSA New
LG Motorsports G5: 224/230 114 LSA 581/572 Used
Comp Pat G 222/230 112+2 LSA 602/609 New
1998 WS6
LS1/6Speed
New LS7 Clutch
Fresh Stock Bottom End/Stock Pistons
LS7 Lifters
Trick Flow 7.4 Pushrods
799 Heads/Pac Springs
Trunion Upgrade
LS6 Intake/P&P TB
SLP Lid
1 3/4 Headers/Catless ORP
Magnaflow Exhaust
Stock 3:42 Rearend
Plus Upgraded suspension
Again, just trying to get most of the motor and still be efficient.
Any and all input welcome.
Cam choices are as follows.
Tick custom grind: 229/233 114 LSA New
LG Motorsports G5: 224/230 114 LSA 581/572 Used
Comp Pat G 222/230 112+2 LSA 602/609 New
1998 WS6
LS1/6Speed
New LS7 Clutch
Fresh Stock Bottom End/Stock Pistons
LS7 Lifters
Trick Flow 7.4 Pushrods
799 Heads/Pac Springs
Trunion Upgrade
LS6 Intake/P&P TB
SLP Lid
1 3/4 Headers/Catless ORP
Magnaflow Exhaust
Stock 3:42 Rearend
Plus Upgraded suspension
Again, just trying to get most of the motor and still be efficient.
Any and all input welcome.
Before you worry about a new cam springer you need to dump that heavy ls7 clutch and get something lighter in it. Gm hotcams have gone over 400whp, extend the rpm range and sound great. If you already have ported heads then you should easily beat that.
Another thing that sticks out is those 1 3/4 headers, not as good as 1 7/8.
Gears to....get a set if 3.90's.
Fast intake or the new msd intake......get one
All those will free up what you already have......and that is efficiency. ......not changing cams and still having parts that tax it and possibly working worse than what you have now.
Any dyno #'s springer? Graph? What rpm do you turn it?
Last edited by HioSSilver; Mar 6, 2015 at 07:52 AM.
If you're dead-set on the ones you have listed, I'd for sure go with the Tick custom grind. It's the biggest of the three, and trust me, after you've had the cam for a while, you're going to want more.
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Redbird's car runs good.
Before you worry about a new cam springer you need to dump that heavy ls7 clutch and get something lighter in it. Gm hotcams have gone over 400whp, extend the rpm range and sound great. If you already have ported heads then you should easily beat that.
Another thing that sticks out is those 1 3/4 headers, not as good as 1 7/8.
Gears to....get a set if 3.90's.
Fast intake or the new msd intake......get one
All those will free up what you already have......and that is efficiency. ......not changing cams and still having parts that tax it and possibly working worse than what you have now.
Any dyno #'s springer? Graph? What rpm do you turn it?
Before you worry about a new cam springer you need to dump that heavy ls7 clutch and get something lighter in it. Gm hotcams have gone over 400whp, extend the rpm range and sound great. If you already have ported heads then you should easily beat that.
Another thing that sticks out is those 1 3/4 headers, not as good as 1 7/8.
Gears to....get a set if 3.90's.
Fast intake or the new msd intake......get one
All those will free up what you already have......and that is efficiency. ......not changing cams and still having parts that tax it and possibly working worse than what you have now.
Any dyno #'s springer? Graph? What rpm do you turn it?
One thing people overlook is how big a cam needs to be. The difference with that tick cam and one with 4 degrees more overlap is maybe 10-12hp up top especially with stock heads. You dont need a big cam to make power despite what people say, and it will also drive better. ~4 degrees of overlap is about perfect for a DD. Sure you can make a little more power 10-12hp with a larger cam but driveability will begin to take a hit. Anyone who says they're 10 degree overlap cams drives like stock hasnt driven in a stock car. My buddy has a 230/238 eps cam on a 112lsa I have the one in sig and my buddies is stock with bolt ons. All have been tuned well and my car drives MUCH closer to the bolt on one vs the eps car. You cant hide overlap after a certain point. His is right at 10 degrees in a lq9.
Out of that lst I would go with manton 11/32 pushrods, then move on to getting a lighter clutch, FAST 102 or 92 and pick up some 1-7/8 headers. Speed Engineering has theirs for 300 bucks right now. Also ditch the ls7 lifters fro morel 5315's they cost 60 bucks extra but are well worth it over the stock ls7's. If BTR still has his then those are a fine choice as well. I'd be willing to bet theres 20-30hp or so in your setup the way it is right now by dropping the clutch, adding a fast and then headers.
Last edited by redbird555; Mar 6, 2015 at 09:32 AM.
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OP, the tick custom grind is very close to mine, and it drives very nice. Only time there is any issue is in a school zone when you have to go 15mph and you look like a loon revving and feathering the clutch to get through it without jerking the car. On the stock cam, I could drop to 3rd and coast through. Other than that, the only difference between this cam and stock is how quick it gets to 120.
That said, go back to Hio's post, and most of that is true for my car - other than the gears, which is my next move. Porting your heads would also do well to compliment your existing cam and a newer cam.
It's always the combination. Make sure you let her breathe. Once you get all the power you want out of it, you move on to worrying about other things - like breaking your rear axle
LOL on the cocaine comment. Less addictive, too
That said, go back to Hio's post, and most of that is true for my car - other than the gears, which is my next move. Porting your heads would also do well to compliment your existing cam and a newer cam.
It's always the combination. Make sure you let her breathe. Once you get all the power you want out of it, you move on to worrying about other things - like breaking your rear axle
LOL on the cocaine comment. Less addictive, too
Me being the Dumbass I am, Already sold the Hotcam. Typical I jump the gun like normal. Still thinking about going with the tick and moving forward from there.
Of those, go with the Tick grind, but honestly you should go a touch bigger than even that. I daily drive my car (it's my only car) with a 228/230 cam on a 112 LSA which has more overlap than any of the cams you listed and it's not a problem. Even gets the same fuel economy as when it was stock.
