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Old 06-02-2004 | 01:33 PM
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I know how you feel. When my MMS 427 fell apart in under 500 miles I was ready to chuck the whole car off a bridge. Instead I sent it to Mike at More Performance and he rebuilt it with a C5R block and lots of other new parts. I've got almost 8000 miles on that engine now and it runs ******* great. It uses just a bit of oil now but I think that's going in the intake and the PVC catchcan is waiting to be installed. The only problem I've had is a crankcase vent hose blew off the intake after it was powdercoated. The thing gets 17MPG on the highway at 14.7-15 AFR and puts about 450 to the wheels. That will soon change with the addition of TEA heads which are done and waiting to be installed at TEA.

When your engine is done and done right your going to cream your jeans everytime you step on the gas and forget about the mistakes in the past.
Old 06-02-2004 | 02:24 PM
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Wow Cat I cant believe people are having so many problems building a 427. Geeezzz u think that the motor was invented last week.
Old 06-02-2004 | 02:33 PM
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Not to rub salt in an open wound fellas but I am running the same ARE 436 CI motor for 2 years now and too many 9 second passes to count. No problem.
Old 06-02-2004 | 02:33 PM
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damn that sucks!!! Sorry to hear that

Why dont you try to take that bastard to court?

I personaly would tell him to give me the money and if he didnt I would beat the **** out of him! Then take the money from him like he took you for your money

I hate it when people screw people over like this!
Old 06-02-2004 | 02:41 PM
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Hmm...glad i live in the south. I see a lot of trouble with the ls1 hot rodding shops up that way. And another reason I build ALL of my own stuff. If it takes me 6months longer I do it myself. That way I can't blame anyone but myself and I don't end up having to get midievil on someone over it
Old 06-02-2004 | 02:56 PM
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Not to rub salt in an open wound fellas but I am running the same ARE 436 CI motor for 2 years now and too many 9 second passes to count. No problem.
Mikey if everybody got treated as well as you do by ARE they wouldn't be in the hole their in.
Old 06-02-2004 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by mikey
Not to rub salt in an open wound fellas but I am running the same ARE 436 CI motor for 2 years now and too many 9 second passes to count. No problem.
Yeah, but how many blocks did you go through in your car before you got this one?
Old 06-02-2004 | 03:54 PM
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Mine was built in 2001. Back then dropped sleeves were pretty common.
Old 06-02-2004 | 04:31 PM
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Yeah, but how many blocks did you go through in your car before you got this one?
One. My last one I blew up at Bristol in 2001 with a 350 shot of NOS. There were no aftermarket main studs available and the stock TTY bolts let go. That's when I decided to go all motor...
Old 06-02-2004 | 04:37 PM
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Man this is nutz, EZ, Bear, and I read a post from a guy in FL with a JD setup that is coming apart as well....
Old 06-02-2004 | 04:47 PM
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I know mine was done by steve....

Good luck bear

so was mine......I actually WATCHED him do it (it was COOL!!!!!!!!)
Old 06-03-2004 | 02:04 AM
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How did coolant destroy the head gaskets???? screw dex cool or green coolant. Get some Toyota "red" coolant.
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As far as the coolant goes with the gaskets, this is what I was told by Steve at R.E.D. There was dexcool installed originally and it was changed out at 475 miles or so. The car never ran hot, just was leaking terribly from the drivers side head. I am getting the Cometic ones and running NPG from the getgo this time. I also got the NPG Water Pump and stat as per Steves reco as well. This is supposed to help with the flow of coolant. I should be up and running around end June. The heads are already on thier way to Absolute.
Old 06-04-2004 | 11:56 AM
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Well I got an update on the motor. Seems to me that the bad news never stops. Guy says that the block has one sleeve that is ruined. It has deep scratches in it. They cant be removed by honing so that means block has to be shipped back to RED and a sleeve replaced. The scrathes are also on 2 pistons so now those are dead. Looks like the relutor wheel wasnt clearenced 100% and that some debris was inside the motor. I am SERIOUSLY broke and I have no moneyto fix this. I am in contact with JPR about MONEY as he WILL be footing the bill to replace sleeve and pistons. I also curiously have some parts MISSING from my motor. NO BILLET MAIN CAPS or ARP Mian STUDS. I PAID FOR THESE!!!! I will post more info as it becomes available. Later Bear
Old 06-04-2004 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Bear
Well I got an update on the motor. Seems to me that the bad news never stops. Guy says that the block has one sleeve that is ruined. It has deep scratches in it. They cant be removed by honing so that means block has to be shipped back to RED and a sleeve replaced. The scrathes are also on 2 pistons so now those are dead. Looks like the relutor wheel wasnt clearenced 100% and that some debris was inside the motor. I am SERIOUSLY broke and I have no moneyto fix this. I am in contact with JPR about MONEY as he WILL be footing the bill to replace sleeve and pistons. I also curiously have some parts MISSING from my motor. NO BILLET MAIN CAPS or ARP Mian STUDS. I PAID FOR THESE!!!! I will post more info as it becomes available. Later Bear
That's BS! Bear, hang in there I really hope everything works out for you !
Old 06-04-2004 | 12:19 PM
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Sorry to hear about the motor but atleast you are in good hands now. Keep the updates coming.
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OMFG.....
Dude I feel so bad for u,Good luck with getting the $$$$.
Old 06-04-2004 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Bear
Well I got an update on the motor. Seems to me that the bad news never stops. Guy says that the block has one sleeve that is ruined. It has deep scratches in it. They cant be removed by honing so that means block has to be shipped back to RED and a sleeve replaced. The scrathes are also on 2 pistons so now those are dead. Looks like the relutor wheel wasnt clearenced 100% and that some debris was inside the motor. I am SERIOUSLY broke and I have no moneyto fix this. I am in contact with JPR about MONEY as he WILL be footing the bill to replace sleeve and pistons. I also curiously have some parts MISSING from my motor. NO BILLET MAIN CAPS or ARP Mian STUDS. I PAID FOR THESE!!!! I will post more info as it becomes available. Later Bear
The horror never cease to end when JPR is involved. I hope JPR helps you.
Old 06-04-2004 | 02:21 PM
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Thats horrible news Bear. I might make my way up to eastside tomorrow for a dyno run. I can bring my digital camera if you want any pics.
Old 06-04-2004 | 02:29 PM
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Jim if u can PLEASE take pics. I need all the help I can get. Bear


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