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Old Apr 7, 2015 | 11:49 AM
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I'm doing homework and coming up with ideas, thought I'd run this one past some experienced builders.
How dumb would it be to take a 4.8 engine, hone the cylinders, re-ring it and put 5.3 rods & a 4" crank under it?
The goal is not horsepower but off-idle torque.
I think this recipe gets to ~360 CI and, with the factory cam (or an RV of some variety) it should make more off-idle torque than a 6.0 swap with the benefit of new rings & bearings, too.
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This is a BADLY misguided plan.
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Originally Posted by yossarian19
I'm doing homework and coming up with ideas, thought I'd run this one past some experienced builders.
How dumb would it be to take a 4.8 engine, hone the cylinders, re-ring it and put 5.3 rods & a 4" crank under it?
The pistons would stick up about .200" above the deck of the block, so the top ring probably wouldn't even be in the cylinder. Needless to say, it wouldn't work.
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Old Apr 7, 2015 | 01:25 PM
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Glad I asked.
I'm confused (obviously). I'd thought the stroker engines were using a 6.125" rod, common to the LS1 and 5.3? Where did I go wrong, and which rod would I want?

EDIT: Pistons.
Do the 4.8 flat-tops have a different wrist pin height than the 5.3's?
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Old Apr 7, 2015 | 01:37 PM
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Ive been thinking of doing this with my L33 which is currently torn apart. You would need to just get a stroker kit....or do your math right and buy parts separately but id just give someone a call. And then there going to tell you just to get a 6.0 anyways I bet. From what I remember the 4.8/5.3 pistons are the same. Difference is the 4.8 crank and longer rods to accommodate the shorter stroke.
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Old Apr 7, 2015 | 01:39 PM
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Where did I go wrong, and which rod would I want?
It's not the rods, it's the pistons. You want pistons made for a 4" stroke crank which is usually shorter so that it doesn't jump out the hole like the stock one would.
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Old Apr 7, 2015 | 02:23 PM
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Got it.
Thanks for the help.
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im real sick of the ham fisted meatheads who immediately hate on anyone doing anything smallbore

undersquare motors make better off throttle torque

they are also the most efficient.

since you cant put a ******* 5" crank in the LS that pretty well means the only path to undersquare is s 4" crank under small bores...

im essentially trying to build exactly the same thing as this guy. 5.3 truck block, sawed off ls7 crank, ls7 rods, custom pistons, shaved 862 heads with a 2.0 valve shoved in there with ls7 lifters, ls6 springs, brass trunions, and a BTR cam...

how is this any dumber than a 383 besides being more so what a 383 is.

yall dont think 5.9l is enough when everybody with a bone stock junkyard LQ4 thinks putting a cam in it equals racecar or whatever the big bore cult is on about???

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Originally Posted by Paul.Kaos
im real sick of the ham fisted meatheads who immediately hate on anyone doing anything smallbore

undersquare motors make better off throttle torque

they are also the most efficient.

since you cant put a ******* 5" crank in the LS that pretty well means the only path to undersquare is s 4" crank under small bores...

im essentially trying to build exactly the same thing as this guy. 5.3 truck block, sawed off ls7 crank, ls7 rods, custom pistons, shaved 862 heads with a 2.0 valve shoved in there with ls7 lifters, ls6 springs, brass trunions, and a BTR cam...

how is this any dumber than a 383 besides being more so what a 383 is.

yall dont think 5.9l is enough when everybody with a bone stock junkyard LQ4 thinks putting a cam in it equals racecar or whatever the big bore cult is on about???
Are you done???
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Old Jul 24, 2024 | 11:39 AM
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Everyone wants the 7000rpm max hp # dyno queens.

nobody is looking for a low revving torque monster.

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Mainifold Pressure is cheaper than custom rotating assembly(s)
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Originally Posted by Paul.Kaos
im real sick of the ham fisted meatheads who immediately hate on anyone doing anything smallbore

undersquare motors make better off throttle torque

they are also the most efficient.

since you cant put a ******* 5" crank in the LS that pretty well means the only path to undersquare is s 4" crank under small bores...

im essentially trying to build exactly the same thing as this guy. 5.3 truck block, sawed off ls7 crank, ls7 rods, custom pistons, shaved 862 heads with a 2.0 valve shoved in there with ls7 lifters, ls6 springs, brass trunions, and a BTR cam...

how is this any dumber than a 383 besides being more so what a 383 is.

yall dont think 5.9l is enough when everybody with a bone stock junkyard LQ4 thinks putting a cam in it equals racecar or whatever the big bore cult is on about???
Got a laugh out of this….thanks.
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this thread is incomplete without a picture of a sawed off LS7 crank - can anybody deliver?
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Originally Posted by bobcratch
this thread is incomplete without a picture of a sawed off LS7 crank - can anybody deliver?
It's top secret...

But I did find this in another thread.


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A $20 lathe job.....
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A $20 lathe job.....
You misspelled $200. Nobody does anything for $20 anymore. Those days are gone. Super simple job though with the right tools.
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Originally Posted by Paul.Kaos
im real sick of the ham fisted meatheads who immediately hate on anyone doing anything smallbore

undersquare motors make better off throttle torque

they are also the most efficient.

since you cant put a ******* 5" crank in the LS that pretty well means the only path to undersquare is s 4" crank under small bores...

im essentially trying to build exactly the same thing as this guy. 5.3 truck block, sawed off ls7 crank, ls7 rods, custom pistons, shaved 862 heads with a 2.0 valve shoved in there with ls7 lifters, ls6 springs, brass trunions, and a BTR cam...

how is this any dumber than a 383 besides being more so what a 383 is.

yall dont think 5.9l is enough when everybody with a bone stock junkyard LQ4 thinks putting a cam in it equals racecar or whatever the big bore cult is on about???
I just want to know what junkyard has an LQ4 without the Rods hanging out of it.

Originally Posted by Biebs
Everyone wants the 7000rpm max hp # dyno queens.

nobody is looking for a low revving torque monster.
Considering that the majority of Heads out there for that small bore are cathedral and they work better for port velocity than volume, you have to have RPM's to get that velocity.

Someone had a small bore rectangular port head if I remember right.
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Originally Posted by Che70velle
You misspelled $200. Nobody does anything for $20 anymore. Those days are gone. Super simple job though with the right tools.
Yeah, I was being hopefully facetious... LOL!
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