Johnson 2110 lifter
Here is the Johnson tie-bar lifter with axle oiling and the .750' wheel:
http://store.cammotion.com/johnson-2...raulic-lifters
The drop in replacements are $560. You can see all of the common Johnsons here:
http://store.cammotion.com/parts/lifters
http://store.cammotion.com/johnson-2...raulic-lifters
The drop in replacements are $560. You can see all of the common Johnsons here:
http://store.cammotion.com/parts/lifters
The 2110 is the lifter used in the copo camaro, lives 1/4 mile at a time and constantly sees 8500 rpm in the copo....name when the 5315 has done that. you can bet your last dollar gm did a lot of testing before choosing that lifter.
when I was lifter shopping i spent a lot of time calling and talking to different people. the 2110 is a better lifter period, now does that mean you have the extra 200 bucks? nope. but if you do i would upgrade, you cant even call morel directly you have to go through a dealer. I called johnson and got randy, the chief engineer who is also on theis forum under the name havoc he took time out of his day multiple times to talk to me about my combo and explain the difference of the lifters they offer. Idk about you guys but 200 bucks in an engine isnt much and to get customer service like that is priceless.
speedtigger, that wasnt aimed at you lol just my thoughts in general. personally after reviewing users of morel lifters, specifically their entry level link bars, i wouldnt run them. the 5315s are a good drop in and I would do them if i was on budget but anything else id go johnson, thats not a flavor of the month thing. I made a full on thread about it and did a lot of research
Check btr and save 150 on the dropins and even more on the link bars. Hell I biught my link bar 2116's from btr for less than 560. If I had an extra 200 bucks on my valvetrain id do these over the morels all day long.
The 2110 is the lifter used in the copo camaro, lives 1/4 mile at a time and constantly sees 8500 rpm in the copo....name when the 5315 has done that. you can bet your last dollar gm did a lot of testing before choosing that lifter.
when I was lifter shopping i spent a lot of time calling and talking to different people. the 2110 is a better lifter period, now does that mean you have the extra 200 bucks? nope. but if you do i would upgrade, you cant even call morel directly you have to go through a dealer. I called johnson and got randy, the chief engineer who is also on theis forum under the name havoc he took time out of his day multiple times to talk to me about my combo and explain the difference of the lifters they offer. Idk about you guys but 200 bucks in an engine isnt much and to get customer service like that is priceless.
speedtigger, that wasnt aimed at you lol just my thoughts in general. personally after reviewing users of morel lifters, specifically their entry level link bars, i wouldnt run them. the 5315s are a good drop in and I would do them if i was on budget but anything else id go johnson, thats not a flavor of the month thing. I made a full on thread about it and did a lot of research
The 2110 is the lifter used in the copo camaro, lives 1/4 mile at a time and constantly sees 8500 rpm in the copo....name when the 5315 has done that. you can bet your last dollar gm did a lot of testing before choosing that lifter.
when I was lifter shopping i spent a lot of time calling and talking to different people. the 2110 is a better lifter period, now does that mean you have the extra 200 bucks? nope. but if you do i would upgrade, you cant even call morel directly you have to go through a dealer. I called johnson and got randy, the chief engineer who is also on theis forum under the name havoc he took time out of his day multiple times to talk to me about my combo and explain the difference of the lifters they offer. Idk about you guys but 200 bucks in an engine isnt much and to get customer service like that is priceless.
speedtigger, that wasnt aimed at you lol just my thoughts in general. personally after reviewing users of morel lifters, specifically their entry level link bars, i wouldnt run them. the 5315s are a good drop in and I would do them if i was on budget but anything else id go johnson, thats not a flavor of the month thing. I made a full on thread about it and did a lot of research
i sidnt see the "r" in the link lol anyway tooley has the normal 2110 for 429 and doesnt stock the 2110r. those are usually drop shipped from johnson as they are very low volume, if you call johnson the 2110r will run 470 as quoted to me. tooley sells the 2116 for 579 and I think i paid a little less than that when i called him direct.
i explored the 2110r option and found that even with its slightly smaller travel than the 2110 at that point the 2116 isnt much more and the benefits are even less travel (.093 vs .150) and link bars. point being is if you dont wantr the 2110 youre going to pay 470 for the 2110r and then another 40 bucks for new lifter tray at which point youre very close to the 2116 which has greater capabilities and eliminates lifter trays
i explored the 2110r option and found that even with its slightly smaller travel than the 2110 at that point the 2116 isnt much more and the benefits are even less travel (.093 vs .150) and link bars. point being is if you dont wantr the 2110 youre going to pay 470 for the 2110r and then another 40 bucks for new lifter tray at which point youre very close to the 2116 which has greater capabilities and eliminates lifter trays
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I'm on my phone...so I'll be brief. But the main reason for the 2110R was the marine world and guys that will not swap to tie-bars. The .150" travel 2110R makes more sense in those applications. In an LS I'd definitely step up to the 2116LSR.
I met one of those marine guys at PRI last year. He is a big Johnson lifter fan. He said the Johnsons simply do not have the failures that he was having with the other brands in the tough offshore marine environment.
Last edited by speedtigger; Jun 19, 2015 at 08:30 PM.
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Just note that the 2116 has a .750" wheel as opposed the the .700" wheel that the drop in replacement style lifters have. Not that that will necessarily cause a problem.
I met one of those marine guys at PRI last year. He is a big Johnson lifter fan. He said the Johnsons simply do not have the failures that he was having with the other brands in the tough offshore marine environment.
I met one of those marine guys at PRI last year. He is a big Johnson lifter fan. He said the Johnsons simply do not have the failures that he was having with the other brands in the tough offshore marine environment.
The 2116 is not a .750 wheel kip has a typo on the site I bought a set of 2116s but changed build directions and had to return them. They are a standard .700 wheel like most lifters, Randy at johnson who is Havoc40 here confirmed that as well as myself when I had the lifters. He stated they didnt find any benefits of going to a larger wheel on that body iirc either way though there is no issue with going to a .750 wheel in an ls.