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Old 08-20-2015, 01:33 AM
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I currently have a 212/218 .555/.555 cam (was installed by previous owner) in my 6 speed 02 z28 and don't feel that it is making the power it should down low. It traps about 108 on my car with stock manifolds, ported and milled 241's, UD pulley, 4.10 gears, 9" rear, catback exhaust, stock ls6 intake and ported throttle body. From what I read, this cam should be making a lot of torque down low and it doesn't feel that way. I launched the car at 5000 with a quick slip and it did a 1.9 60' on ET Streets and stock suspension which didnt seem right. I was hoping for atleast 1.75 60's and a 114 trap speed.

Would I benefit from going to a bigger cam like a 228r or Torquer V2 provided I get long tubes? How much power and torque do you really loose from stepping up to something in the high 220/ low 230 range. With my 4.10 gears, I believe I can benefit from a cam swap but wanted to get more input.

I have Comp 921 springs and titanium retainers etc.. so swapping the cam itself would be all I need most likely.

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You need some headers first
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Headers and gears first. Then if you do a larger cam new springs because springs are a wear item with an aftermarket cam.

With exhaust manifolds the mph I think looks good, and the talk of swapping to such a big duration in the same breath as complaining about lack of lowend tells me you have a lot to learn before you should be inside the engine.
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The cam probably does make some decent low-end power, but you aren't going to feel any of it at 5000 RPMs.

I would get a set of headers first. You aren't doing that cam any favors with the factory manifolds.
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
Headers and gears first. Then if you do a larger cam new springs because springs are a wear item with an aftermarket cam.

With exhaust manifolds the mph I think looks good, and the talk of swapping to such a big duration in the same breath as complaining about lack of lowend tells me you have a lot to learn before you should be inside the engine.
The car already has 4.10s and only 20k miles so not sure if springs need replacing. Probably good piece of mind but not absolutely necessary.

I think due to the gears, im get over 3k rpm quickly when doing a pull which would mean that something with midrange and high end power would be much better for my application.

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Sounds like the previous owner did a CARB legal type build to avoid emissions headaches which compromised the performance due to being CARB legal ....question you have to answer yourself is how much legality/driveability can you afford to compromise to gain performance?
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Since you have 4.10 gears and a 6-speed I'd personally go with at least a cam the size of the Torquer 2 if not a little bigger yet. With the right tune a big cam can drive pretty damn well, and will have killer mid range and top end with those 4.10s
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Originally Posted by ahritchie
Sounds like the previous owner did a CARB legal type build to avoid emissions headaches which compromised the performance due to being CARB legal ....question you have to answer yourself is how much legality/driveability can you afford to compromise to gain performance?
You are exactly right, he did the build to pass emissions. However, the laws have now changed which makes it so that I don't have to pass the sniffer test. Due to this change, I want to go bigger since the car will pass as long as it doesn't throw a code.
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Since it has 4.10s now I would question the tune or state of tune. Still headers are critical.
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The Camaro I used to have, that's in my sig did 116 full weight with a similar combo as you are thinking. That was on Et streets, and about 12 years ago.
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Any more opinions?
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With a bigger cam you will benefit in power increase over your current cam. But in order to receive the full benefit you will need the correct supporting mods, ie: longtubes. Your good with the 4:10s as well as the heads; and your intake should be fine being the LS6. I currently have a TSP 228r. If you decide to go bigger you will need to upgrade the valve springs to ones that will be capable of handling the lift of whatever cam you go with.
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Was the car ever tuned? If not or if it has a **** tune in it, this could explain the trap speed. What RPM are you shifting at? If you do go through with a cam swap, I would at least pull a couple springs and have them checked.
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also a 9" rear eats up some horsepower too compared to the stock 10 bolt. Get some good 1 7/8" headers and a tune, then decide if u want more cam.
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Headers make a huge difference on a cammed car, get headers over swapping cams.

Although, given you have 4.10s, I'd be swapping cams and doing headers for an even bigger boost in power.
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Your car isnt even running as good as a bone stock car. Something is wrong, and it aint the cam.
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
Your car isnt even running as good as a bone stock car. Something is wrong, and it aint the cam.
Keep in mind the DA was around 3500' when I ran the car. Stock LS1's at my track run about a 13.9-14.0 @ 101 mph
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I think you should get some 1.875" headers and a good tune. See how you like it with a spot on tune for the cam you already have, and some headers to help that cam (and any other cam, for that matter) reach its full potential. You will probably be pleasantly surprised.
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Originally Posted by DavidBoren
I think you should get some 1.875" headers and a good tune. See how you like it with a spot on tune for the cam you already have, and some headers to help that cam (and any other cam, for that matter) reach its full potential. You will probably be pleasantly surprised.
Sounds good, thanks!
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Originally Posted by nascardude56
Keep in mind the DA was around 3500' when I ran the car. Stock LS1's at my track run about a 13.9-14.0 @ 101 mph
I gotcha, m6 cars trap as high as 110 here stock.


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