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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 06:14 PM
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so you lost the bottom end because of your cam???
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 06:37 PM
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so you lost the bottom end because of your cam???
Not sure if it was the cam at higher rpms, but it couldnt of helped. I havent sprayed on the cam yet, ( didnt get a chance 2) a few weeks after the cam install, the engine started knocking and out came the parts of a rod. Not a very good day 2 have if you ask me. Now the car is down and waiting for iron block. Plus my car has 103k miles, so that might of pushed it over as well?
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 06:46 PM
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I'd like to know who's opinion is it that the comp 921 are better than the cranes?? How come the comps had valve float up top with the T REX and the cranes did not?? I guess the more expensive comps are not as good as the Crane lol!!! Make your own decision. I've got a T-REX F/S now for 310.00 shipped, one month old, only b/c my car totaled out.
FYI, I have valve float @6300rpm and up with the FM13 and Crane duals. The FM13 is much smaller than the T-Rex.
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 09:59 PM
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I will let everyone know of my experience after next sunday when it will be installed. I ordered the T-Rex v.2 Cam Wed of this week along with Crane Cams Dual Valve Springs, Patriot Performance Titanium Retainers, Hardened Spring Seats, GM Valve Guide Seals and I have HP Tuner for my 99. I have a guy now building me a base tune to get it going so I can leave the shop without fighting with the idling etc... I also currently have Long Tube Headers, Off Road Y-Pipe, Borla Adjustable plate catback, and a lid. I still have the stock LS1 Intake so that will be a downfall along with my Stock 3.42 gearing.

Anyways I will post my results as soon as it goes in and I get it tuned. I have the before dyno #'s as well to compare it against.
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 10:11 PM
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dont know if my 3.89 will be enough for now for this cam.if not will step up to a 4.57 gearing for the 9inch.still have the stock tb.gotta get a ported one soon.not a daily driver.also gotta swap to arp rod bolts down the road.
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by monodax
I will let everyone know of my experience after next sunday when it will be installed. I ordered the T-Rex v.2 Cam Wed of this week along with Crane Cams Dual Valve Springs, Patriot Performance Titanium Retainers, Hardened Spring Seats, GM Valve Guide Seals and I have HP Tuner for my 99. I have a guy now building me a base tune to get it going so I can leave the shop without fighting with the idling etc... I also currently have Long Tube Headers, Off Road Y-Pipe, Borla Adjustable plate catback, and a lid. I still have the stock LS1 Intake so that will be a downfall along with my Stock 3.42 gearing.

Anyways I will post my results as soon as it goes in and I get it tuned. I have the before dyno #'s as well to compare it against.
Everything looks good besides the fact you are going to kill your power with the LS1 intake. It may not seem like a big deal, but the cam "has" to breath. Also you need a underdrive pulley, alot of minor boltons make this cam scream...
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 99WS6LS1T/A
Everything looks good besides the fact you are going to kill your power with the LS1 intake. It may not seem like a big deal, but the cam "has" to breath. Also you need a underdrive pulley, alot of minor boltons make this cam scream...

Yeah I definitely agree with you about the intake, I may go ahead and order one next week. I believe I could install the intake myself and save a few large. I waited a while to purchase a cam due to me having to find a reputable installer that would do it for a decent price. (Some shops wanted 900.00+)

Also I noticed you also have a 99, I was wondering what software you used to tune your car with?
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 02:37 AM
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Neither. Get the Futral cam I got I dubbed it the Ron Jeremy, but I doubt they can name it that due to copyright laws. I don't know what they call it.. but its a 236/239 .601/.610 111lsa. It drives more or less like stock imo with tuning (no surging at 1300-1400, etc. rpm). My graph shows it peaking in the low-mid 6000's. I shift it at 6800 and it feels damned good. I also opted for a rod bolt upgrade over at Futral since it was a very reasonable price. I made 419rwhp through a 12bolt. Probably a good 430rwhp through a stock rear.

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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 01:39 PM
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Im not sure where you got the 1350$ from. They are 1249$ Most of the cost is absorbed in the springs themselves. If you are interested in the X3 kit and are on a serious budget, give me a call and I will see what I can do.

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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by jrp
no offense but its funny to see people use that arguement against the T-rex. when someone is comparing a say a tr224 against the x2/x3/trex ect, and they want low end / mid range tq and driveability most people say who cares about 3k and under get the big cam. and yet when trying to talk up the x3 suddenly driveablity, daily driving, and low end power comess into play :

from what i've seen josh is correct, the x3 and t-rex have almost identical numbers until 4500 and then the t-rex has more top end.
the X3 has more low end BELOW 3000 than the TR224 AND TR220... and I have dynos to prove that as I have swapped them out and upgraded to the X2 and X3 from those cams.

In addition if you read my posts, I dont give any comments on the TRex because I have never tried it, I just say that is where most of the concern is. A Tuned X3 cam is just as drivable as stock all the way down to about 1200 rpm where you need some really good tuning to get it to the stock level... but that goes with ANY cam including the TR 224 and 220.
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 99WS6LS1T/A
I'd like to know who's opinion is it that the comp 921 are better than the cranes?? How come the comps had valve float up top with the T REX and the cranes did not?? I guess the more expensive comps are not as good as the Crane lol!!! Make your own decision. I've got a T-REX F/S now for 310.00 shipped, one month old, only b/c my car totaled out.
My comps have 20,000 miles on them and they pull ALL THE WAY to 7000 rpm... not a hint of valve float... and the one customer out here that had Cranes switched to Comp 921s.. hope that helps.
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 02:06 PM
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lol it's funny how some people give their opions on the 2 cams when they don't own or haven't ridden in cars with them. What I don't get is how these people can talk about them when no one knows the specs on the G5x3. How can you build a proper setup with that cam when you have no clue what it's specs are, granted it's not small but still. Personally I'd go with the trex, it appears to make more power up top which is what you must be looking for putting a cam this size in.

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I bitch about the same thing... lot of people bitch all day on how the X3 and TRex suck because they arent drivable... a drive in the shop car usually changes their minds!

Far as building a proper setup, 90% of the LG customers are running stock heads, and honestly for them who cares what the specs are? If they need to know that bad then im sure Lou or Louis can help them out... Knowing the specs wont get your car an additional 40 horsepower, nor will it make you faster... I just think its another way for the LG haters to bitch about something and start fights. I have yet to see a single LG cam owner say ANYTHING about knowing his specs...
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 10:01 PM
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Im not sure where you got the 1350$ from. They are 1249$ Most of the cost is absorbed in the springs themselves. If you are interested in the X3 kit and are on a serious budget, give me a call and I will see what I can do.

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I talked to a lady that told me you just received a large shipment and the cam package with everything was $1350. My friend also called a few days later and was given the same price but were out of the comp springs.
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by SSOnYourSix
I bitch about the same thing... lot of people bitch all day on how the X3 and TRex suck because they arent drivable... a drive in the shop car usually changes their minds!

Far as building a proper setup, 90% of the LG customers are running stock heads, and honestly for them who cares what the specs are? If they need to know that bad then im sure Lou or Louis can help them out... Knowing the specs wont get your car an additional 40 horsepower, nor will it make you faster... I just think its another way for the LG haters to bitch about something and start fights. I have yet to see a single LG cam owner say ANYTHING about knowing his specs...
I'm by no means an LG hater, I like whomever has the best price. Personally I wouldn't build a setup without knowing the specs but that's just me. If you take your average Joe that doesn't care about then ya I'm sure LG can help them out and say "...hey this cam will work with your setup..." or "...no this cam won't work..." I would hope that they wouldn't steer them in the wrong direction, from their reputation they seem to be a great company and would do the right thing.

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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 03:43 PM
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 12:21 PM
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does anybody know which one sounds more radical at idle?
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 12:30 PM
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does anybody know which one sounds more radical at idle?
I have a T-Rex and compared to the G5X3's I have heard it sounds a good bit more radical. It depends alot on the tuning as well and what your idle is set to.
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 01:38 PM
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IMO both cams are too big for the street. Look for area under the curve and usuable rpm range on the street. If you are looking to build a car to race a lot then the bigger cams are great.

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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 02:30 PM
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I have no issues with my X3 on the street, it's plain out awesome to drive, great low end power just driving around, it's soooo fun, it's hard to stop smiling when I drive my car. I didn't enjoy driving the car with the 224/228 cam, but all is changed now that I have the X3, TOTALLY different and SO much better.

Don't take my word for it though, I only own it, drive it EVERY DAY! (40+ miles), and have the proof to back it up that it works, and drives great, mucho power and sounds ******* amazing!!!!!
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Orange Peel
I have no issues with my X3 on the street, it's plain out awesome to drive, great low end power just driving around, it's soooo fun, it's hard to stop smiling when I drive my car. I didn't enjoy driving the car with the 224/228 cam, but all is changed now that I have the X3, TOTALLY different and SO much better.

Don't take my word for it though, I only own it, drive it EVERY DAY! (40+ miles), and have the proof to back it up that it works, and drives great, mucho power and sounds ******* amazing!!!!!
Not being an ***, but proof to back it up??? Lets see some track time improvements from you and SSONMYSIX without any excuses because you live in AZ. You didnt enjoy driving your car with the 224/228 cam???WTF? Believe you me, my 228/228 cam'd car is plenty of fun to drive LOL. And I've driven cars with much bigger cams that have had tuning. There is no way in hell that the X3 runs all the way down to 1200rpm like stock. Absolutely not possible, considering the specs between that and stock. I'm not denying that the X3 hauls ***...its a huge cam...it should...but a great street cam, it is not. Sorry, but a cam that makes peak power near 7000rpm is not a "street cam" TR doesnt market the TREX as a street cam. They specifically say its a track duty cam. I think too many people are quick to jump on the "huge cam" bandwagon and just like the bragging rights. Again, I'm not picking on anyone, not an LG Hater, or trying to start anything...just adding something to this post.
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