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Old Oct 16, 2015 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DavidBoren
Man, when I brought up sticking the exact same 4" crank in a 4.8/5.3 block, to make it 359ci of displacement, everyone came out of the woodwork to tell me why stroking a motor is pointless without airflow. People were quoting engine builders, I think someone even posted a link to an article, saying how increasing stroke is the absolute worst value (hp/dollar) for increasing power.

And the heads I brought up to use on the undersquare 359 outflow stock 243's, even on the small bore.

But suddenly there's support for stroking an ls1 using stock 243 heads... umm? Whatever.
I was all for you doing that combo. Of course, I'm all about quirky combos and fully intend on doing the opposite with a 4.8 crank in a 6.0 block at some point. I just don't know what I will put it in yet.

Originally Posted by speedtigger
Doesn't it suck that one would have to choose between a stroker or heads. If I had to choose between the two due to budgetary constraints, I would pick the stroker. Simply because it is easier to add heads to a stroker later than to add a stroker to heads. Also, a stroker with a bigger cam will definitely squeeze more power out of your existing heads while you save up for the good stuff.
Yes, I would go the stroker route, as well. So long as the budget can afford it.

Originally Posted by ahritchie
^For once I agree with you ...it's ridiculous to suggest (by a mod no less) in a thread by someone who states is on a "very tight budget build" should be seriously considering a stroker kit on stock heads when theres much more gains to be had per dollar on a heads (and cam obviously). Yes, adding cubes alone adds some trap speed...but ported heads allowing superior airflow add a LOT more trap speed and are cheaper/easier/faster to install.
And a stroker with those heads will add a **** ton more trap speed. I would pick the better foundation. It is much easier to add heads at a later time than it is to add stroke at a later time.

Originally Posted by ahritchie
How come nobody has tried this 383 stock 243 headed combo and there's no real world results if it's such a good idea? Could it be possible that ported heads are less expensive and more effective at making HP than spending thousands a forged stroker bottom end? Also I'm referring to LS1 gen IIIs....not sure how LS2's got dragged into this.

I agree the 383 will have more TQ and feel faster...but the better breathing 346 will eventually outflow (outrun) it!
How about a 404 with a stock LS3 topend? I did that, and going from a LS2 with a stock LS3 topend, I can assure you that you can definitely feel the added 60 ft/lbs of torque, and there is no way in hell the old setup would catch the current one.
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Old Oct 16, 2015 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by DavidBoren
So, to summarize what's going on, and clear up any confusion that may have been caused by the stroker debate...

You are staying stock displacement with a rebuilt shortblock, having advanced induction port your 243's, and installing the ls7 cam, with a fast 92, and 1.75" headers, correct?
Originally Posted by dans2000camaross
thats the plan....
As much as I love AI, you'd have a much faster car if you skipped the porting, did milled heads only, and invested the saved $ into a real camshaft.

It will be a good running car, either way though. I guess the plus of the LS7 is smooth drivability.
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Old Oct 16, 2015 | 08:34 PM
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well it is my daily driver in the summer...
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Old Oct 16, 2015 | 08:41 PM
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There are better options for camshafts for the LS1 that will run smoothly and deliver usable power. Cam Motion has some "shelf" grinds on their web site, for example.
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Originally Posted by mchicia1
As much as I love AI, you'd have a much faster car if you skipped the porting, did milled heads only, and invested the saved $ into a real camshaft. It will be a good running car, either way though. I guess the plus of the LS7 is smooth drivability.
I agree with this. The heads are a good foundation for a build, but in a heads and cam package I would wager in general, you pick up more from the cam than the heads
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Old Dec 25, 2015 | 07:52 PM
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ok guys i have a question, im at the point were i am ordering parts. i got pac 1218 valvesprings to support the cam, my question what size pushrods should i run, i heard stock is 7.400, others said 7.375. which is it?
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Old Dec 26, 2015 | 12:03 AM
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Invest in a pushrod length tool. Let that answer your question. Don't guess.
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