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Old Oct 31, 2015 | 07:26 PM
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I'm assembling a TSP 383 with Z06 heads and using an adjustable pushrod I've determined that my intake pushrod length is 7.05 @ zero lash and exhaust pushrod length @ zero lash is 7.245. Depending on what preload I use for my LS7 lifters (there appears to be no agreement here about what preload to use with them), I'm going to have to decide on a pushrod length that will work for both intake and exhaust. I've calculated that if I use the longer exhaust valve measurement of 7.245 and add .80 I get 7.325 length. Obviously the intake side will be a little shorter, but should work? Anyone care to chime in with a recommendation?
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I'm assembling a TSP 383 with Z06 heads and using an adjustable pushrod I've determined that my intake pushrod length is 7.05 @ zero lash and exhaust pushrod length @ zero lash is 7.245. Depending on what preload I use for my LS7 lifters (there appears to be no agreement here about what preload to use with them), I'm going to have to decide on a pushrod length that will work for both intake and exhaust. I've calculated that if I use the longer exhaust valve measurement of 7.245 and add .80 I get 7.325 length. Obviously the intake side will be a little shorter, but should work? Anyone care to chime in with a recommendation?
Surprised there is that big of a difference intake to exhaust. Honestly, I would not try to compromise lengths and would get 8 at 7.325 and 8 at 7.130
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Put a straight edge over the valve tips to see if the intake valves are really sunk into the valve seats by .195.

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Old Nov 1, 2015 | 06:29 AM
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Put a straight edge over the valve tips to see if the intake valves are really sunk into the valve seats by .195.

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Great idea, I'll do it.
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Old Nov 1, 2015 | 06:39 AM
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Put a straight edge over the valve tips to see if the intake valves are really sunk into the valve seats by .195.

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No **** hey ????
Perhaps those seats needed a larger valve put in there to restore the proper height
If true in this scenario.....definitely NOT good
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Old Nov 1, 2015 | 07:03 AM
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Put a straight edge over the valve tips to see if the intake valves are really sunk into the valve seats by .195.

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With a straight edge over the tips I can insert an .010 feeler gauge between it and the intake tip.
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I hate to say it but make absolutely sure you are on the base circle on both int and exh. The numbers are surprisingly different.
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I hate to say it but make absolutely sure you are on the base circle on both int and exh. The numbers are surprisingly different.
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I hate to say it but make absolutely sure you are on the base circle on both int and exh. The numbers are surprisingly different.
I just did that and then carefully measured turns past zero lash using the adjustable pushrod set at 7.325 and got 1 1/8 on the intake, and 1 3/8 on the exhaust.
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I just carefully remeasured my zero lash lengths by turning the engine until the exhaust valve on number 3 closed and then stuck a paper towel in the plug hole and let compression blow it out. I then watched the piston get to the top and measured 7.2335 on the intake side and 7.217 on the exhaust side. If I add .080 to those numbers it would seem that a 7.3 inch pushrod is in order.
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What are the cam specs including lobe profile?
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What are the cam specs including lobe profile?
It's a Tick Performance TP228-362/232-353/116.5+3. The heads were done by AI.
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What is the lift? If they are the same lobe the lift should only be a couple thousands different. If so the base circles should be almost identical. Leaving the valve seat and valves themselves the only reason for the difference.

The .010" lower intake tip could make for some of the difference between the int and exh lengths.

Check a couple other cylinders as well.
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Old Nov 1, 2015 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Exidous
What is the lift? If they are the same lobe the lift should only be a couple thousands different. If so the base circles should be almost identical. Leaving the valve seat and valves themselves the only reason for the difference.

The .010" lower intake tip could make for some of the difference between the int and exh lengths.

Check a couple other cylinders as well.
Sorry, should have included the lift, intake is .61575 and exhaust is .59995.
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Okay, that with the shorter intake valve should make up for the difference of .016" between the two. More lift means smaller base circle.

Your early numbers were way too far apart but the later numbers make sense.
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Originally Posted by Exidous
Okay, that with the shorter intake valve should make up for the difference of .016" between the two. More lift means smaller base circle.

Your early numbers were way too far apart but the later numbers make sense.
I'm getting the hang of measuring I think, it really helps to be able to measure the pushrod. And after doing it a few dozen times it gets easier.
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