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Old 06-13-2004, 09:03 PM
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Yeah, you can you can relocate the battery and get a light k-member, but
you can do the same with an alu motor and be so much lighter.
I was wondering when someone was going to realize and say this...
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I went 408 simply because I can throw more N20 at it than an aluminum block without having to worry about it.
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Originally Posted by Elite_Hot_Rod
I went 408 simply because I can throw more N20 at it than an aluminum block without having to worry about it.
My thoughts exactly.....you f-body guys need to save all the weight you can. My 408 iron block will handle way more N2O without worry, and that was the goal. Who wants to drop a sleeve or split a wall......
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Originally Posted by ITSovr4U
My thoughts exactly.....you f-body guys need to save all the weight you can. My 408 iron block will handle way more N2O without worry, and that was the goal. Who wants to drop a sleeve or split a wall......
I agree we need to save all the weight we can, but I wanted over 400ci. I am heavier than the avg driver and I do not go to the track. No matter what I was going to be over 3500lbs..
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also depends on what kinda car

I drive my Vette in a lot of circle tracks also so adding that extra weight to the nose of the car was not an option to me. I had people tell me that they could tell the extra weight was there during hard braking, etc.

My 395 will make 500rwhp easy with the right setup but it prolly is about 25hp less than a similar 408.
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I still say you can get most of that weight off the nose to offset the iron block. I have removed most of my weight off the nose and I could still remove more. Yesterday I found out what a street 408ci can do.. 563rwhp/518rwtq!!! Mind you this is a street setup. Not an all out Hydraulic Cammed 408ci like I could have went with. I could have gone LS6 heads and picked up more horsepower and I could have went with a bigger cam to gain more. I honestly believe 585rwhp plus is capable with a 408ci. Will a 383ci do the same with similar ride qualities? Hell will a 383ci be within 25rwhp of my current #'s with my cars same characteristics?
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Damn guys... Good jubject. Dont know what im doing yet either. Love reading this site..
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I went with a 408 iron block. got rid of the ac, front sway bar, and got a lightweight k-member. Got that tiny battery too. I figured i about evened it out.
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You can offset the weight of the 408 pretty easily and if you are hardcore you can more than offset it. All I did was relocate the battery remove front bumper support, air system, various plastic peices, windshield washer resevoir, hell even headers are lighter than manifolds with cats. My car feels no different now than what it did handling wise with the aluminum block and I do not even have a lighter k member or a arms. I also agree with Vince in that a 408 can make a good amount of more power than a 383, it can also safely rev higher and you don't have to worry about sleeves.

One thing that did sway me to the 408 is when I learned my heads were so screwed. Iron or aluminum the shortblocks are the same price, but when I also needed heads I figured I may as well get the iron for more power and rev.
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If you wanted to... Can you slap on a S/C with no problem? Rather it would be a 383 Alum. or a 427 iron? Or would you have to plan ahead and lower the compression? Trying to learn here..
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Need to lower the compression, its best to do that as a package even thought it costs mucho dollars.
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Originally Posted by Mike K.
Need to lower the compression, its best to do that as a package even thought it costs mucho dollars.

Why so much money?
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supercharger + heads ==== alot of money
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Originally Posted by Mike K.
supercharger + heads ==== alot of money
Hey mike, I have talked with u before about my 408, and is being built as we speak. Would you know how large of a cc I would have to go, sinse these heads are ls1 for the stock 347 block. The heads are in my sig. I was thinking I would be safe by inlarging the cc to the stock specs of the 6.0 head and all would be fine?




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