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Old Jan 23, 2016 | 07:07 PM
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Long story short, my dumbass broke my harmonic balancer bolt off in my crank try to install my Powerbond underdrive pulley. (Another victim of LS1HowTo.com) I've went through numerous cobalt drill bits trying to drill it out and I'm sick of spending money of those. I've seen where some on here have tapped the unthreaded front part of the crank with success. I'm thinking of doing this. I just want some more feedback before I do, good or bad idea?

Also, I'm thinking of punning it for more insurance. Is that possible not using the stock pulley bolt size?
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Old Jan 23, 2016 | 10:00 PM
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That sucks. You'll need a bigger but shorter bolt.

Unless you're running a blower, you shouldn't need a pin.
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Old Jan 23, 2016 | 10:21 PM
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Buy a carbide tipped drill bit it will cut hardened steel easily. You will also need a tap the size of the bolt thats broken off inside the crank.
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Old Jan 24, 2016 | 07:58 AM
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It has been done, the key to ensure the bolt preload remains the same. I would use the torque value of the ARP bolt to calculate the tension (preload) in the bolt and then use that value to find a new torque for the thread size you plan to use for the new larger bolt. This is key, if not I would pin the damper. It is the preload that keeps it from spinning on the crank.
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Old Jan 24, 2016 | 08:04 AM
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Just curious, I'm about to do my install soon. Which part of the ls1 how to guide caused it to break? I'm just making sure I don't do the same thing.. thanks for any info
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Old Jan 24, 2016 | 08:20 AM
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It's where they say to use the crank bolt to pull the harmonic dampener onto the crank.

This is bad advice. NEVER use the crank bolt for this.

There's a bunch of inexpensive tools available: http://www.coloradospeed.com/tools-e...3-p-10976.html
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Old Jan 24, 2016 | 11:09 AM
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OK perfect I have an install tool so that makes me feel better.. want to make sure I wasn't missing anything that would cause this.. hopefully you get that bolt out of there.. are you using left handed bits by chance? If not try them, take the drill in slowly to build heat and intermittently apply pressure..
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Make a sleeve/bushing that will slip into the crank bore. That will align the drill w/ the center of the broken bolt. [Softest part of the fastener.]
A carbide drill, even a left hand one, if available, should do the trik.
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Old Jan 25, 2016 | 07:30 AM
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Just curious, I'm about to do my install soon. Which part of the ls1 how to guide caused it to break? I'm just making sure I don't do the same thing.. thanks for any info
Don't use the old bolt to push on during removal either. You need something solid that you can put on the face of the crank snout to push on. I use a short piece of solid steel round bar for this.
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Old Jan 25, 2016 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Old Geezer
Make a sleeve/bushing that will slip into the crank bore. That will align the drill w/ the center of the broken bolt. [Softest part of the fastener.]
A carbide drill, even a left hand one, if available, should do the trik.
This is a GREAT idea!

But I'd say these bolts are heat treated all the way through, the center is as hard as the shank.

Staying centered is important, once the bit wanders into the threads, it's impossible to get it centered again.
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Old Jan 25, 2016 | 06:46 PM
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Well I won't have to worry about tapping the front of the crank because I kept messing with the broken bolt and got it out!

I started by slipping a 12mm socket in the end of the crank and used it as a guide to start drilling my hole. I ran my 5/16" drill bit through the socket and drilled my first hole. Then stepped up to a 3/8", then a 7/16", followed by 1/2". At that point I took a 5/8" chisel and basically made a cross in the remains of the broken bolt. After that I finished drilling with my 35/64" bit. Once that punched through the bolt started coming out in chunks. I finished by by running my tap in and out quite a few times and threaded my new balancer bolt all the way in. To get this done I used solid cobalt steel bits, plenty of Tapfree cutting fluid, WD40, Kroil, and compressed air in a can.
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Old Jan 25, 2016 | 10:09 PM
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Glad to hear you got it beat! I just purchased the Colorado speed tool and it is money well spent. Nice piece
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