JakeFusion

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Just as a point of reference... I moved from a 234/242 111+3 grind to a 227/244 115+5... and yeah. I wouldn't overcam a car. It's no slower. It's actually faster. But it cruises around much better. And the big cam car idled fine, ran with A/C, power brakes, power steering. Did everything ok. And with a high stall, you think, oh, it masks the cam. Unlocked it does. As soon as you lock it say above 40mph and drive in traffic, you notice the cam. And no amount of tuning will fix it. I had only 9" of vacuum. It was what it was.

I would not get a custom grind Comp. They are ground on older machines for one-off, specials. Instead, go to Brian Tooley and get one that is ground on their CNC machines. Shelf grinds bought in bulk are done this way.

And to say Comp is a lesser quality than Cam Motion... that was true two years ago when I bought my Cam Motion cam... but I've since switched back to Comp. Why? Well, the Comp cam is better now. They learned something along the way and feel completely happy with their product. All I can say is the engineering team looked at why they had issues and fixed the issue. And it's an issue that all other cam manufacturers will have eventually. It's not about the surface finish or material. It's about the engineering. I'll leave it at that. Spintron testing was done to prove this point with some folks in the industry.

I would do an LSL/XE ground cam as I have. Tooley has a Stage 2 227/234 113 that would be awesome in a daily driver with a 3600 stall.

01ssreda4

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Where can I read about what specific changes comp has made to their cam manufacturing? And not that BS cam core article I saw a while back

JakeFusion

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There is nothing published.

And there won't be. Eventually it will come out, I'm sure. But there's no sense in giving away a trade secret.

And if you recall, I was one of the biggest detractors of Comp. So take it for what it's worth.

Rise of the Phoenix

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So how did you become privy of this information?

TimE

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01ssreda4

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Exactly. However even giving benefit of the doubt to someone who has no motive/gain to lie or mislead.....Its not good enough. Too many cams have taken out too many engines for someones word on the internet to be good enough to re-instill confidence in comps customers. Point blank.

KCS

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I still use Comp because I've never had an issue with Comp. When that thread came out about all the whiney cams, I was working for a shop putting in 2-3 Comp cams a week. No issues at all. The last engine I built had a Comp cam in it and again, no issues at all.

01ssreda4

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I get that, which is why i dont bash them. My first cam was a comp grind and the next one may be hell who knows. Point being though for about the same price I think cam motion is a better product. Customer service, better core, and actual cam card is enough for me. Im not anti comp but I'm not for them either.

TXZ28LS1

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OP,

Why not just get a off the shelf cam!!! Sooo many combos you can find on here with a 3200 stall. Combos that have been consistant and proven time and time with less of a headache.


If it was me, id run TSP 228R or Speed inc si5 231/237.

Your gonna throw a custom cam, but cant find anything how it will perform. Makes no sense..

And your custom cam specs are close to my off the shelf TSP 233/239. Look that cam up, only way you can find something close.

01ssreda4

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http://store.cammotion.com/the-titan2

Grind # XA221/350-XA226/345-12+2
Hydraulic Roller Camshaft
Street Performance
Duration at .050": 221/226
112 Lobe Center Angle with a 110 Intake Centerline
Lift with 1.7 Rocker Arm Ratio: .595"/.586"
Typical RPM Range: 2000-6000
Recommended Displacement: 5.3-6.2 Liter Engines
Cylinder Heads: Cathedral Port
Recommended Compression Ratio: 9.4-11.00:1
Recommended Headers: Stock Manifolds - 1 3/4"
Recommended Stall Converter: 2500-3500
Recommended Rear Axle Ratio: Stock - 3.73
*Designed for factory style, or high flow aftermarket long runner intake manifolds.

The TITAN II LS1 camshaft is designed for mild street performance in cars using 5.3-6.2 liter LS engines equipped with cathedral port LS1 style heads. The TITAN II LS1 will have a slight performance idle and improved power throughout the RPM range with emphasis on mid-range to upper mid-range power and torque. This camshaft is designed to be used for vehicles equipped with headers, high flow exhaust and increased stall speed torque converter. Vehicles using this cam will also benefit from high flow intake systems and in some applications, increased rear axle ratios.

The TITAN series cams are designed with our renowned smooth cam lobe design that provides quiet valve train operation and excellent upper rpm stability. Cam Motion offers this cam in 5150, 8660 and our top of the line 8620 camshaft cores. You can read more about our cam cores here > Cam Motion's cam cores

Recommended Accessories:
•Cam Motion .600: Lift Beehive Valve Springs or our .650" lift Dual Valve Spring Kit
•Cam Motion 5/16" .080" Wall Hardened Chromoly Pushrods

speedtigger

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Yep. You just can't lose with the proper Titan series camshafts. Either the the Titan II or the Titan III is perfect for what you are doing. I had a similar sized cam in my old 6.0 for a few years and it drove fantastic and ran well into the 11s in the quarter. All win.

99 Black Bird T/A

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As a daily driver what conditions will you be driving? Highway of stop-and-go in the city?

I think the 230+ intake duration is big for a daily driver that sees 300 miles a week or mixed driving. 3.73s might get old if you do a lot of highway driving. 3200 stall is ok for daily with a tight converter like Yank, my 72 vette has a 3200 Yank and can be a daily driver. However 3200 might be on the low side for the big 230+ cam in a full weight car.

XER cam lobes are fine for daily driver as long as you don't mind the noise, waiting until car is fully warmed up before spinning over 3,000 RPM and are ok with doing valve springs as maintenance. I have put over 120,000 miles on my TA's 224/224 XER cam over the last 13 years without any issues.

With the 3200 stall I think something between 224/228 to 227/235 might be more fun and more driveable overall daily.

I suggest getting one of the expert sponsors to spec a cam just for your set up and goals.

Best wishes with your project.