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Old Feb 16, 2017 | 11:54 AM
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Some good info for you in here. Maybe what I could offer is try not to be set on just running a "certain" cam. As stated the whole combo is key. I'm not knocking on the MS4 at all. TSP makes good stuff & I use a bunch of it.

I don't think I'll ever just choose a cam again. Getting in touch with the cam gurus & conversing with them over your entire combo, uses for the car, your wants & goals, is the best thing to do. You can have a custom cam ground, for your combo, for say $50 more.

A lot of people raise their eyebrows, are surprised, when I tell them the specs of the cam in my car. People run way bigger cams, in smaller motors, than what I have. In my 383 my hp peaks at around 6400-6600, & I rev it to 7k, with only 5* of overlap.

Just make sure you take your time putting together your combo so you won't have to do anything twice. Good luck.
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Old Feb 16, 2017 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by tberg725
That was a mis type on my end I ment to say I dont want to spin the bottom end far past 6500 but on texas speed website they dont go over the rpm operating range but from the dyno runs I have seen of builds that have the ms4 in it the cam is making peak HP at 6,400rpm putting me in the rpm range I feel comfortable being in, what are the rpm limitations of the stock lower end
The MS4 cam will make peak power between 6800-7000 RPM depending on the setup (mine peaks at 6800/6900 and I shift at 7000). That cam needs lots of complimentary parts and should be shifted around 7000 RPM. If you're running an LS6 intake, near stock compression, single 3" exhaust, or a tall gear, you should pick another cam. If a MS4 setup peaks at 6400 RPM everything is wrong and it will get pushed around by guys running much milder combos. Get it right however, and it will fly. I built mine 10 years ago and it remains almost unchanged today. Best of 10.89 @ 124 with a ~3700lb raceweight on a NA GM 346 shortblock.
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Old Feb 16, 2017 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by SoFla01SSLookinstok
Some good info for you in here. Maybe what I could offer is try not to be set on just running a "certain" cam. As stated the whole combo is key. I'm not knocking on the MS4 at all. TSP makes good stuff & I use a bunch of it.

I don't think I'll ever just choose a cam again. Getting in touch with the cam gurus & conversing with them over your entire combo, uses for the car, your wants & goals, is the best thing to do. You can have a custom cam ground, for your combo, for say $50 more.

A lot of people raise their eyebrows, are surprised, when I tell them the specs of the cam in my car. People run way bigger cams, in smaller motors, than what I have. In my 383 my hp peaks at around 6400-6600, & I rev it to 7k, with only 5* of overlap.

Just make sure you take your time putting together your combo so you won't have to do anything twice. Good luck.

I'm really not 100% stuck on the MS4 cam at all and am open to other suggestions I just did some reading and that camshaft in particular interested me and made some nice numbers on a couple dynos and seemed to be what I was looking for

My last build I did for my windsor stroker I had a custom camshaft made and that thing screamed all threw the rpm range without having any flat spots also the last motor I put together for a friend of mine I went with a custom cam also worked out extremely well so if I find a set of heads I really like along with the fast intake which seems to be the best and goto intake manifold for these motors sense going N/A I may just have a custom cam made if nothing out here is fitting my goals
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Old Feb 16, 2017 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Marc 85Z28
The MS4 cam will make peak power between 6800-7000 RPM depending on the setup (mine peaks at 6800/6900 and I shift at 7000). That cam needs lots of complimentary parts and should be shifted around 7000 RPM. If you're running an LS6 intake, near stock compression, single 3" exhaust, or a tall gear, you should pick another cam. If a MS4 setup peaks at 6400 RPM everything is wrong and it will get pushed around by guys running much milder combos. Get it right however, and it will fly. I built mine 10 years ago and it remains almost unchanged today. Best of 10.89 @ 124 with a ~3700lb raceweight on a NA GM 346 shortblock.
Nice times thats right in the area I want to be in along with being able to drive it as much as I want to, what I consider streetable some might not I have a real good tolerance for big cams and what not, if you don't mind me asking what does your build consist of?
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Old Feb 16, 2017 | 04:53 PM
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I wouldn't mind hearing more on what you ran with the MS4 with all that weight .
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I wouldn't mind hearing more on what you ran with the MS4 with all that weight .
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...2-results.html
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Old Feb 20, 2017 | 06:28 PM
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Super impressive combo you had ! Reason I asked was that TSP told me to get the MS4 with what my plans were and mods on my car.
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