Lifter tap
#1
Lifter tap
I can not for the life of me fix this noise:
The noise started after I did heads and cam swap with all the supporting parts (lifter, pushrods, timing, etc). I've driven it a hard 1k miles with this noise. I would think it would have blown something or gotten worse if it were catastrophic. It gets really bad between 1500-2000rpm then pretty much goes away. It does seem to be load dependent or whether going up or coming down in rpm. It only happens when hot, it's perfectly silent when it's first started up.
I've checked lifter pre-loads numerous times, even swapped them to a different length and got the same noise.
I used brand new GM/Delphi LS7 lifters from TSP. I'm getting 55-60psi oil pressure at cruise.
When looking into the engine bay, it sounds like it's coming from the rear but not low enough to be a rod.
I've pulled the valley cover and the cam lobes don't look awful to me, but may be worse than they should be for only 1000miles.
Is there a sure-fire way to know it's a lifter before tearing apart the heads? Or would a cam bearing cause this noise?
The noise started after I did heads and cam swap with all the supporting parts (lifter, pushrods, timing, etc). I've driven it a hard 1k miles with this noise. I would think it would have blown something or gotten worse if it were catastrophic. It gets really bad between 1500-2000rpm then pretty much goes away. It does seem to be load dependent or whether going up or coming down in rpm. It only happens when hot, it's perfectly silent when it's first started up.
I've checked lifter pre-loads numerous times, even swapped them to a different length and got the same noise.
I used brand new GM/Delphi LS7 lifters from TSP. I'm getting 55-60psi oil pressure at cruise.
When looking into the engine bay, it sounds like it's coming from the rear but not low enough to be a rod.
I've pulled the valley cover and the cam lobes don't look awful to me, but may be worse than they should be for only 1000miles.
Is there a sure-fire way to know it's a lifter before tearing apart the heads? Or would a cam bearing cause this noise?
Last edited by bman0660; 06-08-2017 at 09:32 AM.
#3
#7
Have you double checked your header bolts after a few heat cycles. Exhaust leak at the head will sound like lifters. Re torque header bolts at the head just to be sure it isn't something simple
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#8
I don't hear a "metal on metal" sound at all, sounds like exhaust to me as well. I also only heard it when you moved the camera to the center of the car.
#10
#12
Retorqued header bolts to 18ft-lbs. Still there. Double checked pushrod length with the "turn method". On average between 0 lash and torque is about 1-1/3 to 1-1/2 turns, which should be .0625-.0705" preload. A little on the low end, but should be in spec.
#14
Does your oil drain plug have a magnet? It might be time to do an oil change and run vr1 20w50 and put in a new magnetic plug. Like mentioned inspect the dip stick while the engine is running for tiny air bubbles in the oil on the dipstic
I also suggest using a mechanics stethoscope to listen to the head on each cylinder to pin point the noise location. You can also get under the car with it running and use the noise test to try to find if it's prominent on the top or bottom
To try to narrow it down further you could also perform a compression test and leak down test before you try to tear down the motor.
I also suggest using a mechanics stethoscope to listen to the head on each cylinder to pin point the noise location. You can also get under the car with it running and use the noise test to try to find if it's prominent on the top or bottom
To try to narrow it down further you could also perform a compression test and leak down test before you try to tear down the motor.
#15
I get 0.077" for the 1-1/3 turns. Did you check the exhaust connections in addition to the header attachment to the head?