Speedmaster ls1 cast stroker crank.
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I got the block dropped of today to see how far I need to hone so I can order the pistons. Dss makes .005 .010 and .017 over but if I need to go that far i don't think it would be good with boost. The cilinders are in really good shape so hopefully it stays the minimum.
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Thanks paul but I plan on using it more than one in the future for I'm just gonna buy one. It'll pay for itself soon enough.
AND NOW THIS!
Haven't decided on rails or injectors yet but after talking with lloyd I ditched the 241 idea got a set of 317's and decided on a different piston to put compression around 9.1:1. Olsen said his pulley set up should produce around 9-10# of boost.
AND NOW THIS!
Haven't decided on rails or injectors yet but after talking with lloyd I ditched the 241 idea got a set of 317's and decided on a different piston to put compression around 9.1:1. Olsen said his pulley set up should produce around 9-10# of boost.
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another reason to be careful of what you get from the yard. Sure you can clean it up but the cost will kill you vs new parts.
another reason to be careful of what you get from the yard. Sure you can clean it up but the cost will kill you vs new parts.
Well guys it seems that the crank passed inspection. No need for anything to be done to it. Not even a polish. All the measurements checked out its straight and indexed properly. It's funny though because after all the stuff you here and not finding anything wrong I wanna Get a second opinion lol. It seems like all that needs to be done is have it balanced and drop it in.
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Well when its time please do take it. I'd like to see what your "straightness" measured out to. I said it was straight because the Forman and the owners son who came out to ask me why I had it checked said she was perfect. Just opened up the box today to oil and wrap it up with bubble wrap, found the card the machinist left on the crank. Everything was perfect but the straightness was marked .001". I'm not a machinist so isk maybe that's ok.
I'm glad to hear the good results. I ordered this same crank a few months back with the intent on doing budget friendly 416 LS stroker. I already have an iron block that's been bored to 4.065 and ran LS3 internals for the last 60k miles. I haven't gotten around to taking it to the Machine Shop yet since the engine is still in my truck. This is great news
Well when its time please do take it. I'd like to see what your "straightness" measured out to. I said it was straight because the Forman and the owners son who came out to ask me why I had it checked said she was perfect. Just opened up the box today to oil and wrap it up with bubble wrap, found the card the machinist left on the crank. Everything was perfect but the straightness was marked .001". I'm not a machinist so isk maybe that's ok.
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Thanks I looked it up and found the same thing you said to be true. When i took it in I asked specifically for straightness lol I always have. I don't remember who told me years ago to always ask so I always have but no one ever stuck a tag on it with the measurement. My old machinist was a great guy but will sadly no longer do my performance stuff. He says he's to old and doesn't have the time. I've been working with these guys for two years now and everything has been top notch they do all the local industrial stuff as well like big as trucks caterpillars n such.
I’m wrapping up a 434” build currently. I’m running a compstar 4” crank, which I checked, AND I had my machinist check it when he balanced it. We spent a few days on getting my main bearings clearances correct, so the crank was checked out well. My compstar (China) was out the same as yours (.001”) for straightness, which is actually common. I’d say 98% of cranks never even get looked at in that area...no worries man.
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I'm curious how that crank holds up the added tension on the snout of the crank from the CTSv supercharger.
I've made 1200hp+ on a $100 stock Cast LS1 crank, Compstar rods, Wiseco pistons with a turbo for years and hundreds of 1/4 and 1/2 mile passes. But that is a GM crank which I feel is better quality. 7800rpm many times for shift points.
I've made 1200hp+ on a $100 stock Cast LS1 crank, Compstar rods, Wiseco pistons with a turbo for years and hundreds of 1/4 and 1/2 mile passes. But that is a GM crank which I feel is better quality. 7800rpm many times for shift points.
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Well I had some junk to deal with, the gf laid her bike down while we were out riding last week and it was pretty bad. Still in the hospital. Some stuff has changed with the build. The aluminum block needs to go .015 over to clean up so thats not gonna happen. Picked up another 4.8 for 100 bucks and its going to machine shop in the next few days. Now I get to use dss standard bore pistons and the iron block will do well with the boost.
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Well I had some junk to deal with, the gf laid her bike down while we were out riding last week and it was pretty bad. Still in the hospital. Some stuff has changed with the build. The aluminum block needs to go .015 over to clean up so thats not gonna happen. Picked up another 4.8 for 100 bucks and its going to machine shop in the next few days. Now I get to use dss standard bore pistons and the iron block will do well with the boost.
anything new??
Well, just for grins I tried to find this crank listed.
Not on Speedmaster site.
Not on their ebay store.
And not in the Jeg's catalog.
So perhaps they just built a few and pulled it from the market?
Ron
Not on Speedmaster site.
Not on their ebay store.
And not in the Jeg's catalog.
So perhaps they just built a few and pulled it from the market?
Ron
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Sry the project has kinda taken a back seat to finishing my alchohol injected 355 for the 59. I got the balanced assembly back from the machine shop weeks a long time ago along with the block. It according to them it balanced well with no issues. I need to order gaskets rings and bearings before I get back to it. Also still waiting on heads for her.
@ Ron if you just google pce276.1113 it'll bring up jegs and eBay links. Still available from what I see.
Thanks for the secret code Ed.
Not in stock at Jegs, but they can ship in a couple of weeks.
Looks like a price increase to $254, still cheap.
Good to hear yours balanced up well.
Will be interesting to hear how the bearing clearances come out.
Thanks again.
Ron
Not in stock at Jegs, but they can ship in a couple of weeks.
Looks like a price increase to $254, still cheap.
Good to hear yours balanced up well.
Will be interesting to hear how the bearing clearances come out.
Thanks again.
Ron
pce276.1113 has narrow rod journals Sry the project has kinda taken a back seat to finishing my alchohol injected 355 for the 59. I got the balanced assembly back from the machine shop weeks a long time ago along with the block. It according to them it balanced well with no issues. I need to order gaskets rings and bearings before I get back to it. Also still waiting on heads for her.
@ Ron if you just google pce276.1113 it'll bring up jegs and eBay links. Still available from what I see.
I bolted on a rod using stock bearings and it felt like the edge of the bearing was touching the radius on the crank. No surprise since the description said narrow or chamfered bearings would be required.
The big surprise was when I tried to bolt the second rod to the crank........
The rod would not fit next to the first rod
The rod journals are only 43mm wide on this crank. A stock LS crank is closer to 48mm wide. It looks like I will need narrow rods to use this crank. The front of the crank is stamped LS-1-4150 which made me think it may have been misboxed and could be a 4.150 stroke. I put a piston on the rod to check the stroke and sure enough it is 4.150 stroke.
I will call them on Monday to see what rod would work with this crank.
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I bought one of these pce276.1113 4.100" cranks and put it in my ls1 block last night.
I bolted on a rod using stock bearings and it felt like the edge of the bearing was touching the radius on the crank. No surprise since the description said narrow or chamfered bearings would be required.
The big surprise was when I tried to bolt the second rod to the crank........
The rod would not fit next to the first rod
The rod journals are only 43mm wide on this crank. A stock LS crank is closer to 48mm wide. It looks like I will need narrow rods to use this crank. The front of the crank is stamped LS-1-4150 which made me think it may have been misboxed and could be a 4.150 stroke. I put a piston on the rod to check the stroke and sure enough it is 4.150 stroke.
I will call them on Monday to see what rod would work with this crank.
I bolted on a rod using stock bearings and it felt like the edge of the bearing was touching the radius on the crank. No surprise since the description said narrow or chamfered bearings would be required.
The big surprise was when I tried to bolt the second rod to the crank........
The rod would not fit next to the first rod
The rod journals are only 43mm wide on this crank. A stock LS crank is closer to 48mm wide. It looks like I will need narrow rods to use this crank. The front of the crank is stamped LS-1-4150 which made me think it may have been misboxed and could be a 4.150 stroke. I put a piston on the rod to check the stroke and sure enough it is 4.150 stroke.
I will call them on Monday to see what rod would work with this crank.
That's not really true of current piston designs. My 4.250" stroke combo has as much rock at BDC as a 4" stroke combo.
