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Old 11-20-2017, 07:38 PM
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Dog's breakfast you have there. There are fun camshafts and there are max effort camshafts and there are no fun and max effort camshafts.
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My strip/street car is more frequently than not a max effort ride and pretty fun on the street too.

You can 100% have your cake and eat it too, just put a plan together and execute. Don't under estimate the converter, it's a big piece of the puzzle
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Originally Posted by Pompelen
Suggestions from some off the vendors I have been in contact with

#1 218/227 .600/.600
#2 231/242 .617/.592
#3 218/224 .553/.553
#4 221/226 .595/.586
#5 269/273 .525/.532
I'd go with number 4 if I were limiting myself to just those choices.
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Strange mix! #5 isn't anything CLOSE to the others!
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Originally Posted by G Atsma
Strange mix! #5 isn't anything CLOSE to the others!
Probably 218/222. Awefully low lift though.
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Ramp rate should be a consideration. I wouldnt want lazy lobes.
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Originally Posted by G Atsma
Strange mix! #5 isn't anything CLOSE to the others!
5 is at 006. Othrs are 050. Its basically identical to first cam.
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Oh, alright then! I was wondering...
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Sweet spot for LS1 is a 226-228 intake and 232-234 exhaust on a 114 or so. Will drive like stock, have a good idle, and make power throughout the rev range and not fall off a cliff at 6k.

And would make 400rwhp.

Anything above that, and it's very diminishing returns. Anything below that and you fall off in power pretty fast. So in short, something like a 226/234 114 is probably the max size cam I'd do in a streetable LS.
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Nice thread! I am putting a LS1 with a 4L80e in a '68 Camaro, identical to yours! I also got a cam to do, i am thinking of a Torquer V4 TSP cam. 231/234.629/.615 111. What do you all think about this one? I am almost identical to Pompeloen. I got ls7 lifters, Yella terra rockers, BTR .660 spring kit, Melling oil pump etc.
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Originally Posted by Bspeck82
180k mile LS1
799 heads untouched
222/228 lunati cam
1-3/4 longtubes, PS ORY, magnaflow catback
3200 budget converter by circle D
Ls6 intake

387 hp
371 tq
Is that a Mustang dyno, seems very low even w/ the high miles.
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Old dynojet with a heavy roller, 95F, maybe around 1100 feet above sea level. Smoothing: 0, tires so bad they were floating on the roller. Humidity wasnt bad, dont remember the number. I believe those numbers is for the power it made in THAT weather. No dyno tweaking nonsense. NicD told me they like their heavy dyno because it doesnt inflate numbers its just a no BS roller. They let off early due to vibrations at 150ish mph. Got to be those tires. Its just a tuning device. I was told for what it was, it made good power. Idk, it pulls hard and feels good.
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Is your car manual or automatic? Eithier way this simple and easy combo will get you there. More power wouldve been made with a MORE DIALED IN CAM.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/1485608-trickflow-cast-220-heads-228-cam-dyno-vid-graphs-posted.html
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Originally Posted by Bspeck82
Old dynojet with a heavy roller, 95F, maybe around 1100 feet above sea level. Smoothing: 0, tires so bad they were floating on the roller. Humidity wasnt bad, dont remember the number. I believe those numbers is for the power it made in THAT weather. No dyno tweaking nonsense. NicD told me they like their heavy dyno because it doesnt inflate numbers its just a no BS roller. They let off early due to vibrations at 150ish mph. Got to be those tires. Its just a tuning device. I was told for what it was, it made good power. Idk, it pulls hard and feels good.
I was looking at the graph and thinking specifically that something looks like it went wrong. It started breaking up right before it peaked, and likely didn't hit it's full power. I thought KR at first, but tires would make sense.

NicD is far and away the best tuner in the phoenix area. Keith's dyno is notoriously "stingy" (in other words, honest), and if you get the power on Keith's dyno, you will absolutely get it at the track.
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Ya I may need shift points adjusted due to a gear change so ill see if they will squeeze me in for a quick dyno run again. Mickey T S/S radials should hold up better. See if I can get a more stable run, not that the peak number will mean much since its 20+ degrees cooler. But hey, Just for laughs.
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Originally Posted by big hammer
I made over
400 rwhp with just bolt ons
Post your mods.
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Originally Posted by JakeFusion
Sweet spot for LS1 is a 226-228 intake and 232-234 exhaust on a 114 or so. Will drive like stock, have a good idle, and make power throughout the rev range and not fall off a cliff at 6k.

And would make 400rwhp.

Anything above that, and it's very diminishing returns. Anything below that and you fall off in power pretty fast. So in short, something like a 226/234 114 is probably the max size cam I'd do in a streetable LS.
You are right on the money. Absolutely agree. Mine is 228/232 .600"/.602" 112+2 it drives like stock, tuner said took him about 4 minutes to make it idle right, and through my old ls6 intake, 243's, and trans it made 425rwhp, and power curve was damn near straight and steady up to 6500rpm....excellent choice for a weekend warrior ride.
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Talk about a nice conservative build that flat gets the job DONE!
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All it takes is stock 243s an ls6 cam and bolt ons. Stock drivability, great fuel mileage and it will haul ***
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Originally Posted by JakeFusion
Sweet spot for LS1 is a 226-228 intake and 232-234 exhaust on a 114 or so. Will drive like stock, have a good idle, and make power throughout the rev range and not fall off a cliff at 6k.

And would make 400rwhp.

Anything above that, and it's very diminishing returns. Anything below that and you fall off in power pretty fast. So in short, something like a 226/234 114 is probably the max size cam I'd do in a streetable LS.
Thats damn right. My old 227/235 112+3 was a tremendous street cam. I honestly thought it would make a great shelf grind. Pretty close to the titan 4. It made 470 open headers on mamo heads back in the earlier stages of my build. Damn near made 500 after other mods. It might have if it had been 114+2 instead of 112+3, but would have made less tq also.

Jakes recommendation is about as good a recommendation as youll get


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