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Old Jul 23, 2018 | 04:15 PM
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Taking apart my 99 ls1. Last guy put a torquer v2 cam. Not sure what part numbers these are. And are they any good. The chain says rolon?
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Old Jul 23, 2018 | 04:17 PM
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If you DO need to change it for any reason, not sure you need a double chain. Single usually gets the job done in some pretty nasty engines.
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Old Jul 23, 2018 | 04:18 PM
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Double seems to be a waste?
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Old Jul 23, 2018 | 04:23 PM
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In many applications it is a bit of overkill. BUT it won't hurt anything to use it. You just don't need to spend the money on it if not needed.
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Old Jul 23, 2018 | 04:35 PM
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Im thinkin just get new chain. I believe this gear is billet
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Old Jul 23, 2018 | 05:19 PM
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Anything wrong with this one? If it ain't broke/wore out, don't mess with it.
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Old Jul 23, 2018 | 05:30 PM
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Get an ls2 chain and gear,
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Old Jul 23, 2018 | 05:59 PM
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not a bad chain. rolon is india made. not as good as the iwis ketten chain made in germany.

the gears are made by romac in australia

the katech single is probably better, but doesn't have as much adjustability as the rollmaster

it really depends on your spring pressure and rpm range
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 05:45 AM
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FWIW - here is my experience and opinions on 1x vs 2x timing chains.

I ran a Rollmaster double roller on my heads & cam package for the 99 TA for 125,000 + miles.

Usually the typical factory single chain seems to stretch a little more over a long time and many 10,000's of miles than 2x rollers. Very slowly the cam timing can change slightly. My RS clearly changed cam timing by a couple of degrees after 200,000 miles with a factory single. Put a new 2x roller on the engine ran differently. The 2x roller the engine ran the same at 389,500 miles as it did when the 2x was new.

Lots of high rpm can stretch a timing chain similar to long slow accumulated miles.

When engine harmonics are bad due to a faulty dampener any timing chain is at risk of breaking. Back in the day several engines with ASP under drive pulleys snapped C5R chains on road courses. If the harmonics are good like with an ATI dampener the chain and engine will tend to live longer.

My 91 RS's LS1 383 also has a 2x roller. Based on the advice of my engine builder, we picked the Comp Cams 2x roller set up for this engine. This engine was also built to handle 7,000+ rpm so nervous me want a 2x roller. When we did the Rollermaster on the 99 TA there were some issues degreeing in the cam. One of the gears had to be drilled & pinned for correct cam timing despite being "adjustable" if I recall correctly for the Rollmaster. The RM was far more annoying to install and fiddle with than the Comp Cams 2x roller. Both required some clearancing to get best fit with timing cover.

On the 416 in the TA today, I talked about 2x rollers with Norris Motorsports and based on how I drive and use the car, we decided a factory LS2 set up would be suitable. The motor sees 6,500 rpm and factory chain is good enough. I eventually want to go low lash solid roller etc and a new C5R chain will probably go on at that time.

With all that said the Rollmaster from 15 years ago proved a quality item and held up well.

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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 06:25 AM
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Just to add one thought to the prior post. If you plan on high RPM driving a timing chain dampener is one thing I would add to any setup.
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 06:33 AM
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Well thanks for inputs! My thing is im taking apart an ls1 that im not sure what was in it completely. The guy ran nitrous and the cam and lifters have some dmg. Now with that said im thinkin of just getting a double roller chain with the rollmaster i have. I havent seen the cover yet, due to that being with the guy at shop. Another quick question. It had a slp 55001 oil pump that has scouring, any suggestions as to this?
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Looks like some nasties got in there... I'd be tempted to do a new pump....
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 11:28 AM
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Yea some nasties got in there. Im not sure if im gonna go with regular or another hi flow. But again im askin the ls1tech members for info
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High volume pumps are not generally advised, though higher pressure ones are. These engines just don't need much additional volume, but a little more pressure does not hurt. Give WS6store a call. They can advise you VERY honestly and directly, plus give you a good price on parts. They are a vendor/sponsor here.
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stock bearing clearances? melling m295
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My understanding the only time a high volume oil pump is recommended is when increased pump flow is needed to achieve the desired oil pressure.
  • Engines with piston oil cooling jets,
  • Radiused crank bearings
  • Some aftermarket lifters
  • Increased build clearances
These may require a higher volume pump to achieve the same oil pressure, especially at low engine speeds and higher oil temperatures when the pressure relief valve is not in control of oil pressure

I like the slightly higher pressure oil pumps like Katech blueprinted & ported stock pump or Mellings high pressure one on the typical LS or SBC engine. In most cases the high volume pump isn't desirable.
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 07:43 PM
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Well this one was an Slp55001 and something went wrong lol. Katech must be money
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