Pick one

High end HP or low end torque.

 

Check out the High Lift Hot Cam from WS6store. A little lope, but good all around torque and plenty of power. It's like the popular GM Hot Cam, but with close to .600 lift instead of .525.

 

I was wondering if anyone on here has used the TSP 216/220 .600/.600 112 or 114 cam in a 5.7 LS1 6 speed manual? This cam is now directly available to me in Australia so ive been thinking about my options.

As mentioned in my earlier response to this thread above, not long ago I fitted a Cam Motion “Torque Titan” 218/226 .595/.587 116 cam but have previously run a Comp version of the 216/220 .600/.600 112. I’ve no idea about the difference in ramp rates or lobes between the Comp and the TSP cam. The Cam Motion cam was a big step up from the Comp (which was munched by a bad lifter) as far as noise and smoothness and is much more like stock but as the car is right now I find myself missing the low down torque and responsiveness of the old cam a lot as the 218/226 only really gets moving over 3000 rpm.

This wouldn’t be as noticeable in a light weight F body or Corvette but my car is nearly 4000 pounds including driver and really needs low down power with fast response, I rarely ever use top end power (which the 218/226 has less anyway). To try and make up for this loss I was previously looking to advance the cam but my tuner felt strongly that it won't be worth it, a cam change would be better. He is not a fan of this cam after turning it, especially compared to what was in there.

So I was then thinking of just going the full hog with some form of Forced Induction which would work well with the 218/226 116 cam but it's going to require me to replace my ported 241 heads, OTR CAI, 1-5/8 short headers, Twin 2.5" Stainless exhaust and perhaps my 3.9 diff gears to get the best out of it, a much bigger investment (over $20,000 AU all up), so I'm thinking of doing without the extra performance of FI and just reverting cams instead. Based on my discussions with Cam Manufacturers, I expected the 218/226 to make similar over all power and be just as good low down as the Comp, however it seems without FI I’ve chosen poorly for my needs (too wide on the LSA) and will need to swap again if I wish to regain the low end. Valve springs too as I bought the Cam Motion together with PAC 1218 singles. I'll need duals with the extra lift.

So any experience with the TSP cam or general thoughts would be much appreciated, especially if anyone has direct experience with Cam Motion and TSP loves.

 

What I want to know is - how exactly is a cam with stock specs considered "stage 3?" And that "stage 4" cam looks like stage 1 to me. If you're not failing emissions with a stage 4 cam - you're doing it wrong.

 

8.Lug- 216/220 is stock in WHICH engine?

 

Dyno of the stg 2 vs stg 3

The stg4 will lose even more down low.

 

They're truck cams.

 

which cam would u reccomend for best torque and hp ? Gains ? For a 5.3 silverado

 

I like the stage 2 high lift the best.
212/218 112lsa

 

Ok cool I'm still looking around I'm wanting really good torque and hp with that real noticeable chop

 

The stage 3 high lift has more lope then so youll likely want that one. but the lope is all in the tuners hands. I showed some guys that this past weekend. Something as simple as turning the spark advance down live via hpt showed them exactly what i meant even on the same rpm. You can do both and make even a stock cam lope.

 

Ok so is the stage 4 223/226 not good ?

 

If you want a cam that makes insane noise, great power, will work with a stock converter, and is easy on the valvetrain, go with the Howard's Rattler.
226/234 109 LSA with 6 degrees of advance ground in gives it a good dynamic compression ratio and lets it work OK with a stock converter.
Your fuel mileage will suffer noticeably.

The only thing holding it back is the .525 lift, but at the same time you can run it with some $60 LS6 valve springs and stock everything else.
But it sounds so good..

Howard's also has another cam I've recently bought and have been dying to try out. Part number 190315-08.
210/214, .598/.595, 108+4.

I've charted out almost every aftermarket cam for LS engines (Cam Motion, BTR, Summit, Lunati, Comp Cams, Crane Cams, Trick Flow, etc) into a spreadsheet with the exception of TSP cams (I can't find enough lobe information).
The Howards 190315-08 has the highest dynamic compression of all of the aftermarket cams I've come across. So high, that its above the pump gas threshold for most of the performance engines. Even the 5.3 L33 is right there on the edge. This would make it the torquiest cam available when using a stock converter.



Rambling aside, anything with a 210-220 duration with no higher than a 114 LSA is going to perform great. Unless it has some oddball specs, most cams in that territory are going to make within a few % of each other power wise.

 

You could use our high lift asa cam for that on a 110lsa but its not pra or for what he wants and requires stall and gears.
Even though op is kinda all over the place i dont think its the cam specs for him. 4.8s and 5.3s lose alot down low with 220s duration cams. even with gears.

 

I plan on getting a custom stall build for whatever cam I decide and eventually 4.10 gears just trying to decide on high torque and hp cam

 

If you plan to procharge it in the future, get a nice low-mid range cam if you want it to be great to drive on the street. The blower will take care of the rest.

 

Looks like the 212/218 high lift is better all the way until the very top of the rpm. Having had a 212/218 113 low lift in a 5.3 it is a great all around came. It is also a good cam for boost.

 

Ok cool I was thinking about the ws6 218/227 .600/.600 112 instead

 

Its definitely a tossup there.

 

Ya It would help if there was a dyno of the ws6 cam vs the tsp stage 2 or 3